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03/02/2006 What to do with the release of Unreal Tournament III (UT2007) coming?  XML
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TheDruidXpawX

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Greetings everyone, I'd like to open this topic for debate.

With the release of UT2007 coming in the not too distant future, I'd like to discuss options

We had at one time been planning a switch over of the entire server to UT2007 sometime after release, however there are some problems.

1) Invasion has been ganked from UT2007. It's possible a porting process to bring it over could be performed.

2) UT2004RPG, and DruidsRPG aren't going to be compatible without some manner of rewrite and recompile, and honestly, without invasion, don't currently seem to be an option...

3) Based on the number of reserved slots we have on the UT2004 setup, this doesn't seem to be an option at all.


So, my current line of thinking is to host a new UT2007 server side by side with the UT2004 server, until such a time as the donations towards the UT2004 server don't provide for its bandwidth costs anymore.

This isn't a cheap proposition either, as the hardware for the current DC server was in the vicinity of $1200. Another server I expect would have a similar cost.

I want to gauge everyone's interest level in playing UT2007 in the friendly environment DC provides, and if the interest is sufficient to warrant another a second box with associated bandwidth costs.


Now, I don't want this to be misconstrued as this community is in trouble, or is going away. The contributors of the DC server are covering the current bandwidth costs for the foreseeable future. I just want to know, how many of you who play UT2004 are planning to stop and instead play UT2007.

Thoughts?

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Well at this point I wouldn't mind playing both. Creating two servers kinda sounds like too much for you but I'd be willin to keep tossin in my 120 or 60. Keep us all posted druid.

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I'll play UT2004 untill you or someone gets invasion working or to a testing stage for 2007. I guess either way I'll be around But after 2007 has everything working thats what I'll be playing. As long as my system can handle it




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I will be playing one or the other but not likely both. Chances are I will get "07 check it out and stay on '04 until DC gets it all hashed out. Without Invasion there is gonna need to be a major retool of the DC gametype for '07. Maybe the '07 server will be a CTF server or some other gametype that lends itself to the kind of gameplay DC has become known for providing, developing and supporting. The only thing really holding back any decisions is the waiting game. Until '07 is on our machines and we get a chance to actually playtest the various game types it is difficult to plan one way or the other. Also, coding for '07 may push your decision one way or the other. So for myself, I will be installing '07, I'll give it a thorough run through, and stay on DC '04 until a decision is made serverside.

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I'll probably be making the jump to UT2K7, but I believe I'd stick around 2K4 strictly for the DC server. Epic has always been great for the UT community so I'm hoping they allow for the invasion gametype to be ported over easily.
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invasion won't be in 2007 and while i might be wrong, i feel like re-making it for 2007 (by modders) might take a onsiderable time (correct me if i'm wrong on this). i mean we can't really have the same low poly monsters from unreal in 2007 and if we did, then why not play 2004 (which will definitely have more players for obvious reasons). i'm not saying every graphic should be perfect, but i wouldn't mind playing 2004 if the same creatures are on 07. that said; considering making the new invasion will take time, i would say switching over when invasion comes out would be good timing becasue by then a reasonable % of the ppl playing 2004 would have bought the new game.

summary: wait for a good invasion mod; one that is different -both graphics and gameplay to some extent - than 2004 (dru might make a big rpg update for 2007, that would solve the game play aspect)
give enough time so ppl can buy the game (1 month is a good amount of time for those who don't have financial restrictions to pick up the game. others might wait for discounts for a longer time)


also, kind of irrelevant but just to make sure everyone is on the same page, ut2007 looks most likely to be a Q4 release, so we have a lot of time. not very relevant but wanted to point out.
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The way i see it.. i Dont play UT,, i play DC,, with that said where ever you are i will be behind you.

And even thoe they left out invasion ,im sure it'll be compatible with 2007.
Simply cause invasion is too popular ..reading the developers news articles n such ..i get the feeling this game is all about customizing. and hard core shooting.. people have models already made for 2007..and monster packs..
with that said .you brilliant people will come up with something snazzy ..you always do ..

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Does Mysterial have any desire to mod the invasion for 2k7?
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As stated above, I will buy the game and try it out, but in the long run here I am and here I'll stay! If you switch, I'm with ya, if not I'm here too. A second server to try out some of the 07 game types would be cool, but as you said, financialy sqeezing a bit perhapse. No matter which way you go with it, as long as the DC aura is still there, I'm sure you'll have many of us still around.

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i'll move on to 2007 when it comes out, though i am a mostly invasion player.
so i'll proberly stick with DC anyway.
(strange, since i only got a level 25 WM now. )
but moving on, keeping it just 2004, or having both.
i dont mind, i would proberly still stick around.

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You know, I can't 100% answer this until I see how UT2007 plays on my computer. But assuming it plays it "well enough," if I were to be the decision maker, I'd move once the game type was fairly stable. The only downside I see coming is that without some serious downgrading of some of the settings, I probably won't be able to play at the 1280x1024 resolution that's native to my flatscreen (unless I'm comfortable with 20fps, and I am so used to the 50-80 averages I tend to see, depending on map).

I play DC - and unless it becomes something other than an Invasion RPG server, I'll put my money into it.

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I'm looking forward to UT2007 which i'll probably purchase right away, but as long as DC is on 2004 I'll be playing that until the possible switch... as Mystic said, "I play DC," so I'm planning on staying for awhile 2004 or 2007 whichever it may be
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I'll play UT2004 untill you or someone gets invasion working or to a testing stage for 2007
 


Same for me as for DC.

Ill probably buy 2007 on release tough, but i think DC server dont need to hurry. Lets wait for a fully working invasion/rpg first imo.
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Smokes wrote:
Does Mysterial have any desire to mod the invasion for 2k7? 


From the discussions about it, he's unsure he'll do it unless he's able to balance out the damage bonus to damage reduction on some sort of curve so that a high level player cant just frag a low level player, and a low level player can do more than 1 damage to a high level player.

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emetakleze wrote:
As stated above, I will buy the game and try it out, but in the long run here I am and here I'll stay! If you switch, I'm with ya, if not I'm here too. A second server to try out some of the 07 game types would be cool, but as you said, financialy sqeezing a bit perhapse. No matter which way you go with it, as long as the DC aura is still there, I'm sure you'll have many of us still around. 


I'm seconding this!

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