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What should I aim for. I've read all the skills and such but still wondering wich will be best path.  XML
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fujoubou



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What should I aim for. I've read all the skills and such but still wondering wich will be best path.

I am seeking help on wich skills to get in order to be more productive or if i should go up for stats before.

Curent Level: 31

Extra points in bank: 7

Here are my skills:
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vamp1
regen1
resup1
loaded weapons 1

Here are my stats
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weapon speed bonus 0
health bonus 106
max adrenaline 100
dmg bonus 50
dmg reduction 0
max ammor bonus 60

Thanks in advence for the help on helping all of us ...
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Hmmm, that's just something you have to decide for yourself. Everybody has their own way of playing and their own ideas of what they need to play better in game.

Looks like you're off to a good start with the skills you already have though.

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TRue true true ...

But was wondering if i should aim for either
- Denial 1 and 2 but i have only LWeapons 1 so stuck with the minus i'll get
- Ghost (reason, nice stats and a round saver)
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Seeing as you have ammo to spare upgrading firing rate will massivley increase your kill count and exp....trust me.

If you're more of a meterialist then you should go for Loaded Weapons lvl 2 since it gives you all weapons with max ammo.

If you think you die too fast and your dodging isn't that great upgrade your damage reduction.

If you always seem low on health upgrade your Health Max and Regeneration

If you lose health really fast when fighting and go around picking up health packs upgrade Vampirism for quick health boosts from monsters.

I wouldn't recommend Denial until you have at least Loaded Weapons lvl 2 or 4 since you don't get all the weapons and with 4 you'll have better chances at getting something good.

Ghost is great, but it takes a lot of points to buy and even more stat bonuses to be able to buy it so that's a skill you usually get at a higher level, but then again it's not my playstyle so you might want it regardless of what I say.

Just go with what you'd like to use...forget everyone elses paths because mostly everyone upgrades differently. I for instance only have Vampirism lvl 1 and I do well without a higher level; same with resupply. I spent a month getting Monster Tongue lvl 7 though since I really liked pets when most people don't even bother getting that skill.

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SilverMonkey wrote:
If you're more of a meterialist then you should go for Loaded Weapons lvl 2 since it gives you all weapons with max ammo.
 


That requires him to be level 40, and he still has a long way to go there.
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If I were you I would get Loaded 2, because you get onslaught weapons. If you don't think you'll use them, there's no rush there. You get the max ammo as well, though.

Loaded 3 gets you the super weps which are not that useful/beneficial to keeping you alive. Once in a great while they will get you out of a bind but their common use is to rack up extra points and exp.

I didn't like loaded 4 because all my weps were magic but some would be negative and magic. So instead of just a plain flak, or a -2 flak, I'd get a -2 slowfoot flak! Ugh! The first thing I did after loaded 4 was loaded 5.

Bottom line, get loaded 2 if you want onslaught weps. Don't go past that until you're ready to grind all the way to loaded 5.

If you like to use the high rate-of-fire weps like the link and mini, you'll need to get lots of resupply. If you don't use those weps much, Resupply 2 is probably enough. (I never run out of ammo with the weps I use most).

As for the rest, I recommend getting to vamp 4, which should allow you to live through most of the waves without too much of a problem. Ignore regen, IMO.

You should also max out your wep speed and dmg bonus. Max dmg bonus is 40%, so generally speaking, each time you shoot a monster, you are getting 40% more exp. Combine that with a 50% faster fire rate. This makes leveling unbelievably faster and will also keep you alive - the sooner the monster goes down, the sooner he's not shooting at you anymore.

Dmg reduction: I think of it like this. For each skill point you spend you get 1/2 percent DR. Assuming your health is 100 (i.e. no health bonus), that's half a point of health added by your DR. If your health is maxed at 200 (total of 300 health), that's 1.5 points of health. If you're at 300 and get a keg, you get 399, so each dmg reduction point gives you just shy of 2 points of health.

On the flip side, for every skill point you spend in health, you get two additional health points regardless of anything else. Thus, I recommend maxing out health before putting points in DR.

For the immediate, I'd get another level of vamp, resupply 2, max out damage bonus and wep speed, then two more of vamp.
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Umm, I would go ahead and max your damage bonus since exp is damage based, also I would get a bit more vamp since you get health from that without having to search for pickups/use translocator. I would increase rate of fire and use lightning gun more (just in case you don't use this weapon) because titans can't throw rocks and nali die in one hit, hehe. Good luck
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Absolutely must:
Loaded Weapons 3
Max Weapon Speed
Max Damage Bonus

Next in line suggestions:
Max Vamp
Max Loaded
Max Resupply

Its a crap shoot from here
Whatever direction you decide on will be easier to withstand.

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After thinking here's the path i'll chose first and the reason why...

Curent LV. 32
WSB: 14
DMG B: 50

lv40
WSB: 50
DMG B: 50
and almost LW2

and going up then for lv55 and and being more nasty by the lv so once lv55 i should have everything maxed and have LW3.

Max Weapon Speed
- Faster shooting with every weapon. Wow that's mean better regen with vamp and faster shooting so greater xp at the same time.

Max Damage Bonus
- Better Xp and better servival to as well as beter regen with vamp.

Loaded Weapons 3 (lv40 and lv55)
- As for this 1 last "Level 3: You are granted super weapons (Invasion game types only)." Free painter and deamer = not better servival but free XP at the same time.
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Smokes wrote:
... and use lightning gun more (just in case you don't use this weapon) because titans can't throw rocks...  


Actually this isnt 100% accurate. They dont throw rocks as often but I have witnessed personally several times where one player was firing continuously at a titan and it still managed to toss a rock every 10 or 15 seconds. I agree this weapon has some magical way of making them stutter but don't rely on it fully since they can still get a rock thrown at you once in a while.

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Nice thing to know Titans will fire less when using LGun. Is the Shock in the same situation or no ?
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That's not *exactly* what I would do, but overall, a very wise and well-thought path for a loaded weapons player.

fujoubou wrote:
After thinking here's the path i'll chose first and the reason why...

Curent LV. 32
WSB: 14
DMG B: 50

lv40
WSB: 50
DMG B: 50
and almost LW2

and going up then for lv55 and and being more nasty by the lv so once lv55 i should have everything maxed and have LW3.

Max Weapon Speed
- Faster shooting with every weapon. Wow that's mean better regen with vamp and faster shooting so greater xp at the same time.

Max Damage Bonus
- Better Xp and better servival to as well as beter regen with vamp.

Loaded Weapons 3 (lv40 and lv55)
- As for this 1 last "Level 3: You are granted super weapons (Invasion game types only)." Free painter and deamer = not better servival but free XP at the same time.
 
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fujoubou wrote:
Nice thing to know Titans will fire less when using LGun. Is the Shock in the same situation or no ? 


The Shock Rifle does not seem to have the same effect on titans that a LG does.
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v0rTeX wrote:

fujoubou wrote:
Nice thing to know Titans will fire less when using LGun. Is the Shock in the same situation or no ? 


The Shock Rifle does not seem to have the same effect on titans that a LG does. 


But the sniper works just like the LG. Given its slightly higher rate of fire, it is actually just a bit better at this, especially if you make sure to hit them just before they go to throw. When you get out of sync with their throwing seems to be when they manage to lob a rock at you.

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I'd wait about a week to decide, because Dru is re-working all the stats and skill so the "... Master" system can be implemented. I'd wait and see what people have to say after that comes out to make a decision.

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