What Other Abilities Should Engineers Have?

So, we have given Engineers a number of new skills. Which of the other skills should they have?

I would say they should have the standard ones, available to all classes:

Airmaster

Awareness

Cautiousness

CounterShove

Ghost

Iron Legs

Power Jump

Quickfoot

Retaliation

Shields Up!

Smart Healing

Speed Switcher

Ultima

The other class specials should NOT be available:

Adrenal surge

Energy leech

Experienced healing

Loaded Artifacts

Loaded Medic

Loaded Monsters

Loaded Weapons

Monster points

Monster skill health

Monster skill intelligence

Vampirism

Of the rest, I would suggest the only following be available to Engineers:

Advanced damage reduction

and NOT

Adrenal drip

Advanced damage bonus

Denial

Regeneration

Resupply

What does everyone else think? We can't really let the Engineer Class loose until this is resolved.

Denial 2 may not be a problem to give them ... I dunno; it's a toss up. Can engineers get ammo some way other than resupply? If they can spawn weapons lockers, then it shouldn't be a problem to not give it to them.

I'd go with Adv. DR as long as they don't get something like "Shield Regen".

BotFodder wrote:

Denial 2 may not be a problem to give them ... I dunno; it's a toss up. Can engineers get ammo some way other than resupply? If they can spawn weapons lockers, then it shouldn't be a problem to not give it to them.

They can spawn turrets and vehicles, which have infinite ammo, and they have an infinite link.

BotFodder wrote:

I'd go with Adv. DR as long as they don't get something like "Shield Regen".

Engineers already have Shield Regen. However, it doesn't help much when you are a stationary target.

Nay on the advanced DR. They already have shields, and beyond that I sorta want them to be weaker than the other classes when isolated.

Hey Szlat, as long as it builds, you're welcome to continue putting the engineer classes in the core branch. Even if they're not ready for primetime, if I run a build, I just wont include the Engineer things in the properties file

do enigineers have a option/abilitie .to have whatever vehicle theyre in take the chararistics of the weapon he/she has in hand when jumping in a vehicle? if not is that possible ? vehicles take the players weapon effects? i couldnt find info on the current select attributes .wheres it hideing?