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Dead_Freddo

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One improvement that could be made to the server is to delete mid game voting unless there is over 50% decision. During a game of family room requested by one player (who i shall not name), there was a map vote. This vote took place at wave 15... The person who requested the map ended up voting for a new map and starting off a map vote later on. Therefore, i suggest improvements for map voting.
Perhaps you could create a correlation between the score that you get and how much % of the map vote you get. Or if you find this unequal, then at least cancel map voting after a certain wave. It is ridiculous when you just get into a map and somebody starts off a map vote going. What a way to ruin the map!

Hope you can improve this,
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it already requires 50% of the server population to vote for a new map to be able to change it so there is no difference between what you said and what is currently working
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There is another thread where this was discussed. And Trooper, it's only take 33% of the players to initiate a mid game map vote.

There has been some discussion about the perceived/real problem.

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if there's so much fuss over mid-map voting...

then remove the feature. Disable it.


if not, then we should be able to use it as it's configured.

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yeah i completely agree with that. Learn your server info trooper! 33%..
but yes if there is other threads on this same topic then there needs to be some sort of change? this is for the benefit of the server and not me... just thought i should let you know...

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I like the idea of no mid game voting after wave 4 or something. At least if the map switches before 4 not much of a investment in that map was wasted.

It is kinda nice to be able to change the map after a server crash, or if you come on and your the only one on. I would hate to see it removed entirely.

100% vote before map change would seem reasonable to.
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DyersEve wrote:
I like the idea of no mid game voting after wave 4 or something. At least if the map switches before 4 not much of a investment in that map was wasted.

It is kinda nice to be able to change the map after a server crash, or if you come on and your the only one on. I would hate to see it removed entirely.

100% vote before map change would seem reasonable to. 


I vote for this option.
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DyersEve wrote:
I like the idea of no mid game voting after wave 4 or something. At least if the map switches before 4 not much of a investment in that map was wasted.

It is kinda nice to be able to change the map after a server crash, or if you come on and your the only one on. I would hate to see it removed entirely.

100% vote before map change would seem reasonable to. 
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no i dont like this idea, its against people right to vote. i belive in democracy. if the major players vote for a map, then we change the map(50%+1) .. but 100% is unrasonable.
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no i dont like this idea, its against people right to vote. i belive in democracy. if the major players vote for a map, then we change the map(50%+1) .. but 100% is unrasonable. 


I'm fine with that to, but what seems a bit unreasonable is to get told by webadmin to "not" do mid-game voting unless everyone agrees when that is something that could be enforced with a server configuration, if that is the type of policy the server admins want.

It seems counter intuitive to have a server configuration that allows mid game voting at a certain percent and then told not to do it unless you have a different percent in which you have to checked that yourself through the chat system. "Wait no one vote yet, we didn't hear back yet from Steve".
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No matter how much coding is done, I am quite confident that Szlat would find it extremely hard to configure courtesy.

Unfortunately its the newer, typically discourteous players that start the votes after about wave 4 because they realize that they wont be living very long throughout the rest of the map anyhow. Its the players that are in the middle of a crowd of titans that get irritated at the inconveniently timed pop up.

I do not wish to rehash the debate on when and when not to start a vote, but lets just say that there is a time and a season for it. In my opinion, if you find yourself voting more than about once a week, I would say you are abusing it. Less than that if you are not voting immediately after a server crash.

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No matter how much coding is done, I am quite confident that Szlat would find it extremely hard to configure courtesy. 


I agree, however vote percent looks like only requires a 3 character change in a ini file. Looks could be deceiving I guess.

Personally if I hate a map and other people are in and are not clamoring for a map change I leave and come back later.
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I also dislike it when newer players come on and not like a map and then change it and then change it again! I have seen it happen 3 times in a row and never get to wave 5 or 6! and it is on occasion a older player but most times it is a new player and its even been on maps that i like to play on!

I kinda go with the flow most times but sometimes it gets very annoying!
so if it can be coded at somewhere around the 75+% mark that would keep the frivolous map voting down!

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I think we'd be fine without mid game map voting. If there's a terrible or glitched map, it still would be possible to suicide, ending the map, which would trigger a vote.

A couple of problem you'd run into with this method are players taking unfair advantage of the map and hiding after everyone else suicides. But hiding and glitching are against the rules and that scenario isn't terribly likely to happen. Unless astra is playing. I'm kidding. Probably. Or if the server is in a game mode that doesn't have a limited number of lives.

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