getting desperate. . .

Okay, so.. I've been running an invasion server for 1year + a few months(yeah no time at all right?)

anyway, I'm about to give up.. I've been running a custom 1 class recompile of druidrpg200 since the beginning.. and people have been losing their weapons after ghost since then... (seems to keep the players away nicely.)

I've tried recompiling the newer 214-16 denial/ghost/rpgdeathability/loaded/etc classes.. with nothing but fail.(I've had most of my "code" stolen by other servers.. and all of my monsters posted public without a single person asking.. but please flame me for this post.)
I can't code. only edit.. which makes it really frustrating when it's obvious that there are other servers running the newer versions...

GUESS WHAT!? I don't even want the newer versions... only a working denial/ghost system.. but I guess that's too much to ask for?
I've already offered "donations" even though I can't really spare any "$"..
still not enough I guess.. I don't understand really.

I expect nothing but flames/hate for this.. but, bring it on I guess, ban/delete me whatever.. how dare someone ask for a little help?

bah

what os are you running your server on

Can you explain what your "custom 1 class recompile of druidrpg200" does or post the code?

What is the problem with denial/ghost?

(I've had most of my "code" stolen by other servers.. and all of my monsters posted public without a single person asking.

Are you using a public redirect server or your own? If you are using a public redirect server, the files are not going to be clear on who the author is. A person can download the files your server uses from the redirect server without ever knowing anything about your server.
What is so special about your server that everyone is stealing?

Go through your user data and ensure that the entries for Ghost come before the entries for Denial.

If that doesn't fix your issue, then I can offer no other assistance as you are using a recompile.

These are some of the same problems i have on my server also.. This community of UT2004 rpg players and server admins are not as tight as they should be.

Seems like everyone has to steal from other servers or beg for help and with such a smaller community of people it seems that everyone would want to help in any way they could.

But i guess unless you know code yourself and know how to steal files from other servers, then thats the only way to make your server playable enough so people will always play there.

Because there are several servers that play very well because they have people to fix the rpg instead of waiting for a release.

Sorry for the rant but its just stupid for the coders not to help out the server admins that just want a stable and fun server.

@greg11
"what os are you running your server on"

just winxp pro.. It was on linux when I was renting a server..(same probs)

"Can you explain what your "custom 1 class recompile of druidrpg200" does or post the code?"

basically it's weaponsmaster only.. it can buy all* the other class abilities..

"What is the problem with denial/ghost?"

lost weapons after every ghost..

"What is so special about your server that everyone is stealing?"

Beats me. yes, I was using the pub redirect.. private now.

@BotFodder
I just re-added denial last night. so, everyone had to re-buy it.. same issues. I guess that rules that one out..

InvasionGuy wrote:

Sorry for the rant but its just stupid for the coders not to help out the server admins that just want a stable and fun server.

What you don't understand is that Druid is, as far as anyone can tell, not satisfied with the stability of the current version in use on his server enough to release it as a supported version for use on other servers. If this explanation is insufficient for you, I have other suggestions not appropriate for this forum.

bah wrote:

I just re-added denial last night. so, everyone had to re-buy it.. same issues. I guess that rules that one out..

Listen or Dedicated Server? If it's Listen, it's not that I won't help you, but I can't. I've seen way too much weirdness on Listen instances.

It's been a long time since I've played this game much less touched the code, but here's the explanation:

Skills are read in to the engine in the order in which they reside in the player data file. This builds an array that the mod will step through from time to time, depending on certain events ...

Ghost and Denial are called (in the older versions) by a "PreventDeath" function from Mysterial's UT2004RPG mod - that function loops through all skills a player has, in the aforementioned order, and calls the "PreventDeath" function in each on.

Unless there's a *very* old bug in there that I don't remember existing, Ghost's PreventDeath should return 1, which is supposed to stop the UT2004RPG originated skill loop, since death is actually prevented.

Denial's PreventDeath should return 0, since it doesn't actually prevent death. What it does do is take the weapons based on skill level and store them. I'd be curious if your players are having this problem to differing degrees based on their Denial skill level; 1 and 2 would probably just steal one weapon from them, while 3 would steal all of them.

So, if Ghost occurs first, Denial's PD is never fired (assuming the return 1 is there and it's not return 0, which would kill you anyway), and the weapons never disappear. If Denial's PD occurs first, it fires, takes the weapons, and then Ghost stops you from dying.

Now, remember, I'm doing this all from long ago memory; all that code has been heavily changed since; and I haven't played, much less touched the code, in ages. There could be something else going on that's not occurring to me (especially if you're setting your system up as a listen server, because I've seen some really funky things when DruidsRPG is run on a listen server rather than dedicated), but if I recall correctly this was the issue we were having.

As for fixing the problem, I frankly have no interest in touching the current code, much less code that's several months old. And the issue is fixed in the current code. I'm providing you with as much assistance as my apathy is allowing - really, only because I come to this forum for other purposes, and if I can offer even a small token of guidance to reduce the chances of needing a straight jacket later, I've done something.

There might also be the possibility that even though everyone rebought the skill, it's not in an idea order in the player file. So I suggest again that you go through the player file and double check the order of Ghost and Denial, and switch them around for a few players, and see if it resolves the issue.

So a player can have loaded weapons and denial lvl 3???? Won't they contradict each other?

greg11 wrote:

So a player can have loaded weapons and denial lvl 3???? Won't they contradict each other?

No. All denial 2/3 does is save the weapon that the player was using when he dies and reloads it to his weapon inventory when spawned. There is no contradiction in having a saved weapon in the inventory. However, as a player goes thru his inventory, he can opt to toss or keep the saved weapon.

The Skill Description states

" The first level of this ability simply prevents you from dropping a weapon when you die (but you don't get it either). The second level allows you to respawn with the weapon and ammo you were using when you died. If you have Loaded Artifacts you may buy Level 3 which will save all your weapons. You need to be at least Level 25 to purchase this ability. (Max Level: 2 or 3)"

Thus denial 3 is reserved on DC's server for the LA class. Denial 3 for the LW class would make that class too powerful since that player (high level LW in particular) would be able to save all of their most powerful weapons when they die and upon re-spawn, they could possibly add more to their arsenal. A LA does not have that option except thru using the MWM chance.

If a server opts to allow a LW to have denial 3, that is their choice.

bah wrote:

(I've had most of my "code" stolen by other servers.. and all of my monsters posted public without a single person asking.. but please flame me for this post.)

I expect nothing but flames/hate for this.. but, bring it on I guess, ban/delete me whatever.. how dare someone ask for a little help?

bah

I cannot believe you are still going on about this. You made 4 or 5 Nalifighter extensions and act like you had a stable of super-elite custom monsters that are the envy of all playing invasion.

Additionally you made some really nasty unfounded accusations that you never apologized for, along with posting my personal information:
http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=474481&page=118
(You guys can make up your own minds after reading the thread)

As far as I am concerned you are a blight on the invasion server map and the sooner you fold up your tent the better the community will be.

gopostal wrote:

I cannot believe you are still going on about this. You made 4 or 5 Nalifighter extensions and act like you had a stable of super-elite custom monsters that are the envy of all playing invasion.

Additionally you made some really nasty unfounded accusations that you never apologized for, along with posting my personal information:
http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=474481&page=118
(You guys can make up your own minds after reading the thread)

As far as I am concerned you are a blight on the invasion server map and the sooner you fold up your tent the better the community will be.

Yes, I was almost ready to apologize, until I saw the next site with all the same files.

Those were not even what I was referring to this time. it's awesome to see abilities etc you've made half-renamed and stamped with someone Else's name on them.. but that's what practically every server I've seen seems to be about.

I think I'm passed the point of getting mad.. onto the getting even part now.

I think you just need to take a breather there bah.... the internet makes it easy to steal stuff... if you don't want something stolen.... don't put it on the internet. If it has to be on the internet... then too bad... deal with it. the world does not revolve around you so stop crying

may I be a voice of reason here...if you want help ask (politely) and wait
most of us have real lives that takes up too much time already
and the few of us that do know any code (not me) I'm sure don't appreciate the tone of some of the remarks here

the only place its getting you is to have this shut down by an admin
please keep your outside fights outside and remember this game is what 4 years old know most coders seem to have moved on to other games

peace we are a friendly group here and like it that way

bah wrote:

Those were not even what I was referring to this time.

That says SO much right there.

bah wrote:

I think I'm passed the point of getting mad.. onto the getting even part now.

Translation: I'm going to throw temper tantrums on various forums and embarress myself further. I have no dignity.

have your stuff stolen then talk..
and yes, that /emo-ticon came very close to being used in my reply towards you.

Take a look at my monster/map/mod release readmes. In every one:

"Feel free to alter, use, burn, destroy or mock this work without mercy. All my personal script work is considered public, so do what you want. Contact me if you need help."

That's the way it should be. It's a public game with public players on public servers. All you are doing is frustrating yourself by thinking otherwise. If someone can take something I've done and make it better, well then hurrah for them. I'll learn something new by it too and everyone's a winner.

If you don't like the way things are then buy a license and lock down your stuff or (better yet) find another game to

about.