Making a list of abilities and points needed to max

If anyone wants to help here's what I have so far.

But somethings not right. I maxed my adren master at 301 but my spreedsheet doesnt work out.

I added up the points needed that are listed on the forum and what wasn't on the forum I got from the in game list.

not that it helps for your AM, I was looking through and you have a typo for monster master on Ghost skill.

I made something similar for engineer here, perhaps it helps:
http://www.disastrousconsequences.com/dcforum/posts/list/3445.page

For one thing, I don't know what are your "basics" (710), if those are the same as my stat caps costs, I have 510 there...

I also don't see armor regen (eng skill). Your awareness for engineer (not eng awareness) is wrong I believe, you can only get 1 level as engineer.

Making graphs too? I've alredy done that for engineer, but I thought nobody is geek enough for that, so I didn't post it. :]

I am also not sure, what happens when you start a character. I think you are level 5 at first, if you alredy have 35 points to spend than its OK. If not, the levels cant be calculated just by dividing points by 7.

Wonko The Sane wrote:

I am also not sure, what happens when you start a character. I think you are level 5 at first, if you alredy have 35 points to spend than its OK. If not, the levels cant be calculated just by dividing points by 7.

Copied from dc website:

Druid's RPG has the following stat caps:
Weapon speed =50
Health bonus =200
Max adrenaline =250
Damage Bonus =80
Damage Reduction =50
Max Ammo =80

so total is 710

i'm going to check out where a charater starts and with how many points. (nice catch)

edit- so you start out with Start with 100 adren and 28 points @ level 5 (makes sense thier is no level 0) but thats a free 100

Wonko The Sane wrote:

Your awareness for engineer (not eng awareness) is wrong I believe, you can only get 1 level as engineer.

Are these 2 seperate things or did I just label wrong?

Man, the Engineer skill is confusing.

I think I also need to seperate medic and monster.

Does anyone know if there are things that one skill can buy that the other can't?

I think that 1 point actually gives you 2 health, so its 100 not 200. I might be wrong.

Adrenaline max is 250, but you alredy have 100, so only 150 more points there... Ya, edit... I would rather scale down "points needed for basics" (since you really need 150 for maxing adrenaline, 100 is there by default, same as health, 100 is there by default) than add additional substraction. I think the main confusion is this:
health bonus = 200 (100 points I believe)
adrenaline bonus = 150

health max = 300
adren max = 250

You can't compare max of one thing and bonus of the other.

Engineer awareness shows you shield bars of teammates.
Awareness (plain awareness, but in engineer column in your sheet) is the same as WM, LA awareness, onyl engineers can get only 1 level of it (not 2, so your points there are wrong). Medics might be able to get 1 level only too, not sure on that...

Armor regen adds another 125 points to engineer that I did not find in your sheet (but l only glanced thru it, so it might be there). Its a different thing than shield regen.

Wonko The Sane wrote:

Adrenaline max is 250, but you alredy have 100, so only 150 more points there... Ya, edit... I would rather scale down "points needed for basics" (since you really need 150 for maxing adrenaline, 100 is there by default, same as health, 100 is there by default) than add additional substraction. I think the main confusion is this:
health bonus = 200 (100 points I believe)
adrenaline bonus = 150

health max = 300
adren max = 250

This is why i posted. Nice to have someone to double check ya. good call

Confirmed health 2 for 1

edit- I made some changes , but i'm trying to make things painfully clear, so I did negatives for 2 for 1 health and 100 starting adren.

Looks a lot better for AM now. You shoud add one level to every character at the final calculation because of the fact that you have 28 points at level 5. So the AM should have 299 now, which is only 2 levels short now. (Either that or add 7 to points required)

Wonko The Sane wrote:

Looks a lot better for AM now. You shoud add one level to every character at the final calculation because of the fact that you have 28 points at level 5. So the AM should have 299 now, which is only 2 levels short now. (Either that or add 7 to points required)

28 at level 5 I think is right on. If you consider that you start at Lvl 1 thus get no points for leveling from 0 to 1. A level 5 player would have 4 sets of 7 to spend.

I need to find sometime (probably tonight) to retally points for albilites and see if i made a mistake.

Wonko, I'll also cross reference your post to fix up the engineer stats.

And if any medic/monster masters can let me know if there are specific things about their class that needs to be seperated.

Ratar_Killer wrote:

28 at level 5 I think is right on. If you consider that you start at Lvl 1 thus get no points for leveling from 0 to 1. A level 5 player would have 4 sets of 7 to spend.

I know that. Its just, you can't calculate the needed level in a way that you did by dividing required points by 7, which looks like you did in your table. Say you'd need 49 points altogether to max your character. Your required level to do that should not be calculated by:
49/7 = 7
Because at level 7 you only have 42 points to spend. (28 at 5, 35 at 6, 42 at 7)
So you should calculate it this way:
(49+7)/7 = 8 or
49/7 + 1 = 8
You need 8 levels to get 49 points.
In general, level needed to get x points is the ceiling of x:7 + 1
Its really a minor thing, as it only makes a difference in one level, I can be a bit annoying with details at times. :] I also calculated that wrong in my own calculations, because I assumed that you have 35 points at level 5. I will correct that on my side later too.

Thats exactly right. Another good catch.

lvl 1 = 0 points
lvl 2 = 7 points
lvl 3 = 14 points
etc.

Thanks

I am glad I can help. I actually wanted to do it myself before, but I was too lazy. :] I noticed that you made a mistake when calculating levels. It looks like it calculates it like this:
points_needed_to_max_everything : (7 + 1)
instead of:
(points_needed_to_max_everything : 7) + 1
It should work without () too, but perhaps excell does not work that way.
For example at AM it should be (2086:7) + 1 = 299
not 2086:8 = 260,75

Well thats getting closer only 2 levels off for AM.

Wonko if you want to redue the engineer side that would be great.

OK, will do tomorrow.

Here you go.

Another thing poped into my head. When you buy your class, doesn't that cost 1 point? That would mean the AM would need 300 levels, which is only 1 level off with your experience...

I also double checked your costs calculations for adrenaline master and did not find any mistakes.

The engineer column is now in line with my previous calculations.
(I changed the cost of awareness and added armor regeneration)