Engineer skills and techniques - a starter

Grizzled_Imposter wrote:

Question: how is linking damage calculated?

I may be wrong, but I think the damage is as follows:

beam damage = damage * ((1.5 * links) +1) so it is your original damage, plus 1.5 times that for each link.
So, if the beam normally does 75 damage per second, with 2 people linked to you it would do 75 * (3+1) = 300 damage per second.

The link projectiles do not get quite the same boost. Their damage is * (links + 1). So if the link projectile damage is normally 30 per projectile, with 2 people linked to you then it becomes 30 * (2+1) = 90 damage.

So no modifiers or damage bonus etc count from the people in the link chain - it is all the head guys stats that count. And if the head guy has a double damage and/or berserk running, or a damage+4 weapon, well even better.

So, stick the inifinite medics and engineers at the back of the chain, and put the WM with advanced damage bonus at the front. Or a AM with an energy link+3 with a triple running.

Hmm interesting..Ill have to remember that for fire..ie to alt fire rather than primary fire still berzerk with one person linked is rlly good on it own..o_o..

Even without someone linked to you, with berserk and a double you kill titans in about 1.3 seconds flat on secondary fire. of course that is close range and sometimes a second is eternity!

Thanks Szlats the info is good!

Berserk + DD + inf link, an insane combo on titans!

Some things I noticed in the last days as I leveled up a bit:

1. I bought engineer awareness today and had a revelation. Pets have shields too, and you can boost them (at least it works on warlords). It makes no neat sounds, but you can do it. Same with bots, but I thought so for bots. Does it benefit you the same as if you are boosting some player?

2. Ultima destroys our sents. Is that a bug or was it meant to be? If so, ultima-equiped folks, please die elsewhere.

3. Some less experienced folks run away from the shield blast. It may be too similar in color to the bunnies...

4. When shield blasts goes kaboom you (and others around) loose some serious visibility for a second or so. The blast that medics have is much more transparent and easier to see thru. Maybe its my monitor...

You sure it nots bunny ultima that kills the sents?...Eh I wouldnt know..if im near my sent..and theres an WM near my sent...i shield boost themn alot so they dont die..(cus first they go .then the medics ..and ti all goes down hill from there..o.0..)..

As for colour of the shiled blast..I think its fine......the BEGINGING blast looks liek the beigning of ultima (ie that lil sparkling spot b4 green doom) ..it looks the doesnt same otherwise..so ..my only sugestion is make the being more white..
Transparency....I dunno..Ill have to tyr ti out more..(I tired doign 2 bind to one key ...doesnt work...

...so im goin to redo my shield blast bind)

Yeah..also if I heal pets and dont have the awareness do i still heal them/ gain xp?.(cus i can top up 150 in couple secs..so shielding them in theory to max would take a sec or 2..)

Well wonko as for the neat sound..it doesnt happen to medic either...the sound is the same..( u can also shield ur own pets too..but if you primary fire them u hurt them..o.0....)

Wonko The Sane wrote:

1. I bought engineer awareness today and had a revelation. Pets have shields too, and you can boost them (at least it works on warlords). It makes no neat sounds, but you can do it. Same with bots, but I thought so for bots. Does it benefit you the same as if you are boosting some player?

No bonus for pets. But you probably do for bots.

Oh I fergot elaier a suggestion I thought of..--> defense sents giving owners xp for shooting down projectiles?..like 0.5 xp per projectile..which woudl equate to like 100 rocks neutralized to 50 xp...?..
Eh just a thought....

Another awareness related thing:

I think that for players that bought the "shields up" ability it shows their shields full even when they are not. TON was completely yellow today, but I managed to boost him a little more (heard the sound and he confirmed that I boosted him).

Oh darn, I've been boosting pets all day, so no XP there, eh... :]

@Jason: Yes, ultima definately hurts your sents. If someone dies close enough, it kills a fully healed normal sent (and I have their health improved somewhat).

Wonko The Sane wrote:

Another awareness related thing:
I think that for players that bought the "shields up" ability it shows their shields full even when they are not. TON was completely yellow today, but I managed to boost him a little more (heard the sound and he confirmed that I boosted him).

Agreed. A player's shield maximum is not replicated to other players - just their current health, shield and health max. So I have no way of knowing what the max is when the awareness bar is drawing. So it was either not to do it, or have it maxed at 150. Sorry.

Ah well the point is your tried....

......what of blowing up sents then?

Well, I asked Mystic politely if he could not die around my sents and it worked. Mostly. :]]]

*suicide*..

...lol...

Wonko The Sane wrote:

@Jason: Yes, ultima definately hurts your sents. If someone dies close enough, it kills a fully healed normal sent (and I have their health improved somewhat).

Fixed in cvs, awaiting next build.

For those that want to know, the ultima was incorrectly deciding the team of the base that the sentinel stood on. And any damage to that base gets transferred to the sentinel, so the sentinel got wiped out - even though the sentinel itself suffered no direct damage from the ultima because it was of the correct team. If that makes sense.

Aaaah makes sense.....koolness

OK, a little update: The defense sentinels rock now! While I still only use them at waves 6 and 14, they do a great job! If you use ceiling ones (they usually don't get accidental damage) and put one in front and one behind you, you are reasonably safe from the rocks (with weapon speed maxed). I think I only managed to die once this way. I guess if there were two engineers and both build 2, you can stay put and sip coffee.

Not true for other waves though...