New Release : opinions March16/2010

First of all WOOHOO thanks szlat

AM : fireball is cool ,not sure I understand chain lightning (have to read that post closely)

+1 modifier is very cool my WM can have a +5 vanilla flak

+7 piercing weps

that's all I've noticed so far anyone else

yup the fire ball is cool and being able to +1 somthing when not a am is gonna help ppl I haven't had time for anything else yet but later I will

UT crashed on me and several other people (forgot to copy error log sorry)
where do I send the error log when it happens again ?

ok. i just tried two of the new releases. ENG and AM

1)ENG

we were in tutorial clasic, my favorite map for eng. i had Adair ( he always follow me! he is great) he was linking and we got good EXP and kills, i think i got 2.8k (70% sure.. i still going to post the pic) and he got 2k ..
the damage was good i DID feel like a decrease of damage, i wasnt unable to kill everything in sight. but with some look i was able to manage those ludi kills that i like so much.. i had a triple to help me.. however there is a bad point of this.. since the damage is decrease, the monsters can swarm the base, in fact my turret (ball) got killed twice in wave 15 and 16..

2)AM,

here i only got few minutes to try it out, however i got so much fun!! i had nice weps. ( null mini and null flak) and that along with fireball. i had so much fun! i didnt got many holy molly kills, but it was nice to see something new!

about the +1 artifact i didnt got it. but i guess is really something that thing!

the chain, it does cost! but might worth i was hopping to use it in wave 10 insted of the rod, but the boss callme and i didnt got the chance! later at night i will try it

Ok I made Dom60@ for the new char type and got kicked for camping cuz I was read'n the menu try'n to see what to buy lol!

1st Q is the only am artifacts going to be the trip and globe?

2nd Q no xp for healing fellow players?

other than that for now it was kinda fun have'n the ability to make a medic rocket and the eng link and to get xp for linking a eng! and not having to worry about running out of ammo in the heat of battle! 2 of us lasted til almost the end of 16 on river canyon. Oh and also being able to buy loaded weapons and not having to chase em! let me do a few more lvls and get some more stuff and i'll let ya know how it works out

For the General class, see this page
It shows you what you can and cant buy.
I haven't updated all the wiki pages for the individual subclasses yet, but the table ones that compare the subclasses available for each class are done.

Obviously this is a new class, and will get tweaked.
At the moment it is only possible to buy LA1 - so only the globe and triple.
And no xp for healing.

We have to severely limit what it gets from the other classes, otherwise it gets overpowered. You cannot take the best from each class. So, basically it cannot take as much from a class as a Hybrid does, since this takes from all four classes whereas the hybrids are two classes.

ok ..ummm...just got lvl 4 loaded eng for my gen class and got the mini-turret and can't spawn it. but check'n the pages and the wiki site says I can't span it til lvl 30 which is technically lvl 5 LE and it also states that at lvl 15 you can spawn a defense sent but you don't get them til lvl 5 LE!

So......am I read'n something wrong or is there a goober in the line up there? cuz it sure seems a lil messed up in the way the info states it supposed to happen

Oh and I'll trade the TC for a sent NOW! PLZ!!

There are 2 sets of requirements to be able to spawn something.

First you need to get the summoning artifact for it. This is usually based upon the number of points it is.

Second, there is a limit as to how many of a thing you can spawn. This is based on your character level.

You need to satisfy both to be able to summon something.

ok I made lvl 24 which allowed me to buy lvl 4 Loaded engineer it gives the artifact for the mini turret, BUT it wont allow me to make one.

now as you pointed out Szlat the wiki states that "quote"

There are also restrictions about what you can spawn based upon your player level.

* Sentinels. Yous can summon the first one at level 15, the second one at level 70, and the third at level 130
* Turrets. You can summon the first at level 30, and the second at level 50
* Vehicles. You can summon the first at level 20, and the second at level 40
* Buildings. You can summon them at levels 4,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55,60,70,80,90.

So I can not make a turret until I level up to 30 AND it also says that I can make a DEFENSE SENTINEL at lvl 15 BUT I cant get THAT artifact until I buy loaded engineer 5 and thats only when I reach lvl 30 because of the requirment of 6 lvl's per level of LE.

so by what the wiki says upon reaching lvl 3 LE or lvl 18 I should be able to do a defense sent and not get the mini turret artifact until lvl 5 LE / lvl 30 THAT's at least what I read and understand it to say.

I would rather make a defense sentinel 1st than a turret any day! I remember when I first made a LE char and how long it seemed to take to make a defense sentinel.

Would it be possible to give the general class some experienced healing to buy (maybe level 4) I've always been a fan of giving players a reason to stop and heal teammates as some don't do it as a habit
I'm only level 24 with my general but I can see some great potential with the class , Nicely done as always Szlat

Just a side bar but I think the general class needs a cooler name

RoadKill v3.4 wrote:

Just a side bar but I think the general class needs a cooler name

Agreed. I did ask on the forum, but no-one came up with an original name.

Szlat wrote:

RoadKill v3.4 wrote:

Just a side bar but I think the general class needs a cooler name
Agreed. I did ask on the forum, but no-one came up with an original name.

OOOOOOOH, we can call it the "ELITE AI" class

how about SzlatArmyKnife

thought about Multi-Tool but it was err, you see,

If you go the old D&D way it would be Bard , or Tinker

how bout Grunt or something along the lines of what a regular type of general purpose military troop would do since they are all trained to do any and everything that needs to be done, Trooper sounds good too!

remember as a basic soldier you dig fox holes fill sand bags and other things to set up a defensive base to keep your butt alive! and to apply 1st response first aid to fellow troops!

so lets just caller Trooper and have done with it.

ok I just got to lvl 30 and bought lvl 5 LE and can make both a defense sent and the mini turret! so i'm good for now gonna play a diff char i'm tired of the crashes for now! But it's going to be a good class choice for ppl to choose as a noob since it can heal and give shields and ya don't gotta chase down weapons! the trip and globe I never really use much but with the right frame of mind come in handy. I try to grab a rod and then use the RL as my medic weapon and blast and self heal using the rod on crowds then run!
it helps if I can grab the DD before doing that lol
I've spent more time heal'n everyone else and keep'n me alive with the medic weapon than bust'n critters but that helps win the map and with the few blocks i could toss out and made a lil mini med station/base we've done alright. I like the char type and I'm sure other ppl will too as soon as we can get the crash issue fixed.