new Engineer skills are hard on us other players

I just got wind of the coutershove ability on the engineers sentinals and such, and it is getting freaking annoying.

I have died so many times, because I hit the thing with my flak or my rocket launcher, I was trying to heal someone and must have gotten launched forward to the only place that I could fall off. This happened on the last map.

I, as a healer, can't heal around there, because there are defense sentinals close by and I can't heal anyone because I am getting launched around every where.

If I am my WM or whatever and I am shooting in the direction of the sentinal, I have to pick my weapons carefully, like use a mini so I won't get launched.

As healer, I can't do my job, which is to heal, as attacker, I have to limit myself with the weapons I use.

Why should I limit my self because of the skill choice of the engineer.

I hadn't noticed that the medic weapon was getting countershove off sentinels. I will put a fix in.

Szlat wrote:

I hadn't noticed that the medic weapon was getting countershove off sentinels. I will put a fix in.

It's not just the medic weapons, all weapons are getting the countershove.

I will change Countershove so it checks which team you are on.
EDIT: Actually, I can't. CounterShove is one of Mysterial's abilities in the original UT2004RPG. That means I have to subclass it with a new ability, and then get Druid to remove the old ability off everyone and replace it with the new ability.

At the moment do you get countershoved if you fire at the player who has countershove? Or is it just a sentinel thing?

Szlat wrote:

I will change Countershove so it checks which team you are on.
EDIT: Actually, I can't. CounterShove is one of Mysterial's abilities in the original UT2004RPG. That means I have to subclass it with a new ability, and then get Druid to remove the old ability off everyone and replace it with the new ability.

At the moment do you get countershoved if you fire at the player who has countershove? Or is it just a sentinel thing?

Any created body, be it def sentinel/off sentinel/pet.

(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

Szlat wrote:

...At the moment do you get countershoved if you fire at the player who has countershove? Or is it just a sentinel thing?

Any created body, be it def sentinel/off sentinel/pet.

But definitely not off the player with countershove?

Szlat wrote:

(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

Szlat wrote:

...At the moment do you get countershoved if you fire at the player who has countershove? Or is it just a sentinel thing?

Any created body, be it def sentinel/off sentinel/pet.
But definitely not off the player with countershove?

As far as I can tell, no.

This definitely needs a fix. Not being a medic or another important person, but it is very hard to get experience when you are being shoved all over the map. On GaelXL which was the last map I played on yesterday, I shot Elite's sentinel with my flak a couple of times, getting shoved into the EVILvator!

TEH EVILVATOR!

Just create the subclass of countershove and call it DruidCounterShove like all other abilities modified from the original UT2004RPG code. It seems pretty obvious.

BUMP!

Ok. Something REALLY needs to be done about this. Elite's sentinels are dangerous, espescially in tight areas whereas there is a small hallway where monsters hoard up in with Elite's sent in the middle of the floor. Elite's new upgrade to level 10 Counter Shove on this ENG is really annoying. Every week I die from a Shoving Sentinel about 8 times. Twice today and once yesterday. But not only is shoving being applied to friendly fire, retaliation is also, but it doesn't do damage, you can still hear the pain sounds though.

Retal has always been that way its not something new... but as for countershove the max level is 5 not 10 and yes its maxed for me which could be why it has been killing people recently ever since i maxed it, is there a way that it would only affect the monsters and not the team players?