Resurecct Skill

I'm looking for the adrinalin combo Resurecct ->(SSWW). I don't find enything in the web. Some servers have this mutaor. I think it was an older druid version. Is it true?

Please help me q.q

Not to my knowledge. However, we've discussed it at length, not as a combo, but as a Medic Skill. We could never come up with the best way to implement it.

Doesn't help you much, I know ... but that's a summary of it's "history" as far as these forums and this mod, as far as I know.

Found:

http://www.utzone.de/include.php?path=content/download.php&contentid=5779

I've heard of some servers that have this feature but I have not experienced it myself - DC doesn't have it.

Spike wrote:

I've heard of some servers that have this feature but I have not experienced it myself - DC doesn't have it.

I've played on servers that does have it and it was coded to resurrect a player on a random basis so the same player could not have multiple resurrections by other players, but have to wait his/her turn for resurrection.

However, using this combo, even if limited to high level medics, would change the outcome of a map dramaticaly since we usually have lots of medics on. My fear would be that we would win 99%+ of the maps played.

dont like it... however a life switch maybe..

(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

However, using this combo, even if limited to high level medics, would change the outcome of a map dramaticaly since we usually have lots of medics on. My fear would be that we would win 99%+ of the maps played.

agreed would probably decrease the difficulty of the server overall which is at a nice level right now

I can't see any way that this skill would not cause major disruptions in game balance.

The only balancing factor that makes any sense to me is if the Medic must sacrifice themselves to resurrect someone else. Frankly, I don't think that's a good thing from a social perspective -- I think it would create pressure on players of Medic characters to [stop playing] so [someone else can play]. And as much as that may be a benefit to overall team's results, it's unfair to create a situation where less skilled players are socially pressured into not playing the game. That undermines the spirit of cooperation and encouragement that team play should have.

Wail wrote:

I can't see any way that this skill would not cause major disruptions in game balance.

The only balancing factor that makes any sense to me is if the Medic must sacrifice themselves to resurrect someone else. Frankly, I don't think that's a good thing from a social perspective -- I think it would create pressure on players of Medic characters to [stop playing] so [someone else can play]. And as much as that may be a benefit to overall team's results, it's unfair to create a situation where less skilled players are socially pressured into not playing the game. That undermines the spirit of cooperation and encouragement that team play should have.

which means

Thè-Hättêr wrote:

dont like it... however a life switch maybe

thanks those are the words i was looking for... meh...

best tactic ever. stay alive then you dont need a "priest"

Wail wrote:

I can't see any way that this skill would not cause major disruptions in game balance.

The only balancing factor that makes any sense to me is if the Medic must sacrifice themselves to resurrect someone else. Frankly, I don't think that's a good thing from a social perspective -- I think it would create pressure on players of Medic characters to [stop playing] so [someone else can play]. And as much as that may be a benefit to overall team's results, it's unfair to create a situation where less skilled players are socially pressured into not playing the game. That undermines the spirit of cooperation and encouragement that team play should have.

Wail makes a good point. We wouldn't want undue pressure brought to bear on the "less skilled" to quit playing a wave in deference to the team.

Perhaps if the medic was rewarded with a percentage of the resurrected player's xp during the remainder of the wave. That way a lower level medic might actually *want* to give a life in exchange for rooting on a player who could rake in more points than they could in some of the tougher waves.

It would have to be at some cost, though. Maybe 250 adren and show up as a suicide with an initial loss of points.

Instead of bringing someone back from the dead, would it be easier to just pick someone that we wished to keep alive and somehow make it so that the medics and that persons life totals were shared? or that half of damage taken was shared as well as half of healing?

That would allow a medic to have a chance to keep someone alive, but also give the risk that they would be killed in the bargain. it would need a few limits, and I think that it would have to be played and tried out before adding it but it would allow medics to keep lower level people in the game, which in turn makes it easier for higher level people to kill the last few waves.

Heh I can see that now Grizzled.

Medic grants Player Spirit Link
Player gets Rocked by Titan
Medic gets rocked by feedback

Grizzled_Imposter wrote:

Instead of bringing someone back from the dead, would it be easier to just pick someone that we wished to keep alive and somehow make it so that the medics and that persons life totals were shared? or that half of damage taken was shared as well as half of healing?

That would allow a medic to have a chance to keep someone alive, but also give the risk that they would be killed in the bargain. it would need a few limits, and I think that it would have to be played and tried out before adding it but it would allow medics to keep lower level people in the game, which in turn makes it easier for higher level people to kill the last few waves.

That's what I would like to avoid. Granted, it would be helpful, but players that are not resurrected and bypassed several times would start to resent the players that are constantly being resurrected.

I like the life link.... dmg gets shared between the 2. example:

player 1 is medic, player 2 is wm. player 2 gets hit for 10 dmg. life link splits the dmg 5 and 5 between both. player 2 shoots the monster and gets 5 xp. medic gets 2.5 or whatever. makes it so the player can take more dmg but also makes it so too much will kill both if they are both taking dmg.

2nd example:

this is more of an idea. link the 2 not just in dmg but also in damage reduction and damage bonus, kind of like linking a turret makes it double its damage. now wm has dmg redux of his + medic's. makes the wm tank like it was designed to.

question: should the medic healing split as well? medic with medic rocket shoots feet while in a "safe" corner. medic weapon heals for 10 health per hit normally. link makes it do 5 per person. thoughts?

Sharing life was never one of the alternatives we discussed. We did discuss combining it with ghost (which had strong pros and cons code wise, not to mention fair shares of proponents and detractors) as well as requiring the medic to be full health (although there's actually two definitions of that) and full adren, losing 1/2 health for the target and all of their adren ...

But in the end, when it came to resurrection, it was never a matter of balance at that point - simply a matter of implementation, and I don't think Dru ever weighed into the conversation with a "It should be done X way." Hence, it never got coded, and probably won't any time soon.