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Jimmy



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Hi.

First of all - thank you dear developers for creating such wonderful mod . Keep up the good work.

Now on to the issues. I'd like to know if it is intentional that medic does not gain experience when:

1. He heals with shock rifle combo.
2. He heals monster summoned by someone else.

Thanks in advance for the answers.
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1. No. Not sure what the issue could be there ...
2. Yes.

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BotFodder wrote:
1. No. Not sure what the issue could be there ...
 


Maybe a bug .
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Eh, the shock combo bug might be the same bug where once in a while, you wont get xp for healing someone and then fine for another person. I've had that happen quite a bit on my medic.

On the second issue, I'm pretty certain you're not supposed to get any xp from healing ANY monster (friendly or own monsters) just like you get none for self healing.

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no xp from healing monsters is correct the shock comb I'm not sure what is your lvl of xp healing at ? that could be an issue

I'll give it a go with my medic to test it out (post results later)

note you only get xp from healing damage done from a monster

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RoadKill v3.4 wrote:
no xp from healing monsters is correct the shock comb I'm not sure what is your lvl of xp healing at ? that could be an issue

I'll give it a go with my medic to test it out (post results later)

note you only get xp from healing damage done from a monster 


As far as I remember I got "experienced healing" at level 8.
The situation was like this:
- I healed a bit some players with shock combo - no XP,
- after few seconds I healed some remaining wounds individually with secondary shock fire mode - got XP.
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Are you testing this on the DC server or another server?
There is an issue where poison damage doesn't count as healable damage even if caused by monsters.
Also you don't get XP for healing people above their max health initially until they receive healable damage.
Have you tested this in a controlled method?


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greg11 wrote:
Are you testing this on the DC server or another server?
There is an issue where poison damage doesn't count as healable damage even if caused by monsters.
Also you don't get XP for healing people above their max health initially until they receive healable damage.
Have you tested this in a controlled method?


 


I've observed it on the RQ server (before its downtime). As I said before - I used shock combo to heal multiple teammates to some degree and then healed the remaining wounds of some individuals by using the quick secondary fire. If I gained XP during this "finish" using secondary fire, I should have also gained XP by using the combo during the same "healing session", am I right?

As far as "max health" is concerned - I got "medic awareness", so I can see how much I can heal . I know that I don't gain XP when players are at their max health .
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Jimmy wrote:
I should have also gained XP by using the combo during the same "healing session", am I right?

As far as "max health" is concerned - I got "medic awareness", so I can see how much I can heal . I know that I don't gain XP when players are at their max health


Medic awareness is not part of Druids200 so there is a possibility that the admin of the server set up the server wrong..since the new version isn't officially released.

medic awareness wont tell you if you are supposed to get XP though.
if i come in the game with 100 health..and you heal me to 250 you should not get any xp. Then if a monster does 100 damage to me and i inflict 50 on myself with splash weps i have 100 health again. when you heal me now you will only get xp for the first 100 hp the remaining 50 you don't get any.

You could be right about the shock combo though.


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Players on that server have 300 HP on average it seems, because I can heal them up to 450 HP. You could be right about the initial healing (healing of the newly spawned player), but I would have to check that. However, I remember that I had no problems with gaining XP from healing a group by using rocket launcher or flak's secondary fire.
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I tested the shock combo on a test server and got back xp for healing players.

Have you experienced this on the DC server or just on the RQ server? And does the RQ server run any other mutators which might modify the shock rifle?
 
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