yah, with the few times I've actually been able to play there seemed to be a weird vibe. Not somuch hostile or even perposefull, just kinda unknowingly rude maybe? Snagging up charms, standing right in front of you whilest your trying to toss a wep to a teamate. These may be inocent enough periodically, but it looked like it was happening alot. 

I think everyone knows how it feels to hear that beep sound when you are surronded by 5 queens. 

when it comes to the artifact thing, i agree. whenever i desperatley need a magic weapon maker or i want a charm, and i knock one out of a monster, someone just randomly pops up right in front of me and takes what's mine (its mine in my opinion). maybe you could make the artifacts only retrievable to the player that knocks it out of a monster for a certain time limit or something. 

Maca Dee I agree with you that it is yours, but the way to solve this problem is to thin out the rude players, not recode the game. If you recode it those same attitudes will still be around and it will be just a little harder to pick em out of the herd. If you see me in the game when this happens feel free to let me know and I will be more than happy to deal with it, the server should be fun not frustrating. 

I hardly ever use artifacts, cuz i just like to shoot things. If i grab something just say so and I'll toss it as well anything else I might have, except triple damage, cuz that one's fun. I wish there was a quad damage though..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:  

I say, by godfrie, my pet peives includ taking both ammunitions, leaving none for your mates. But what is worse is when you are waiting for the level to start, standing beside the double damage, when somebody runs up and takes it. Clearly, bad form old bean! Finally, and a clear sign of a weak constitution, is those players. (I use that term loosely) who use nothing but the mine layer. Very poor taste, wouldnt you say wat? 

...we have an unwritten code amongst us... 

Cha-Chi]Yes I am going to bring this topic back up. For the first time today I actually got a lil mad at people on the server. Was it for stealing artifacts, no. Was it for stealing kills, no. It was for complaining about a map being too small and them dieing alot. The map was Gestalt. Comon people, it is a three level map. If you don't like the map don't vote it in. And if you see the map is wrong and want to try to map vote it off at the beginning, go for it. Don't wait till WAVE 13 just because your dieing alot and have a score of 300. I know I love playing that map, heck I had a score of 1200 at wave 13. If the map is that close to ending and you think no one can live than you will get your wish for the map to be changed if everyone dies. Just give people the chance to try to enjoy those clench times (some of us REALLY enjoy those times.) I know the server is not mine and people have the right to map vote off but be a little considerate to those who are enjoying the map. Don't change right before it is over, do it at the beginning, that can certainly be justified. Sorry, you all know I am not a person to rant and get frustrated but I finally see what Mystic started yelling about a little while back. I feel your pain now brother.  

I've seen it too. People are starting to vote again in the higher waves. I think I mentioned it earlier that it I don't think it's the regulars. We ought to start recommending the newbies read this thread. Just so they know. Does the server go to the next map when the majority of the players vote? Say there's 10 people playing at wave 13 and 6 people vote on a new map...will it go to the new map? B_B 

I tend to do something very similar tarl... I follow a set path through most maps if there's not a room I like... Same concept. Killstealing from anyone pre-warlord wave, ticks me off.... there's obviously gonna be countless situations where it just happens but, ya I've noticed a few people who take it upon themselves to "help" me on every monster I almost kill.... Personally as far as I'm concerned once warlord wave hits, every mob is fair game since there's more then enough to go around, and most people can usually use help.... but ya that little bug on wave 3... He's not gonna kill me... It's not so much the points, cause points don't really mean jack to me. It is the principle, but that's just me :) Much <3 

JaggedMarble wrote:

I tend to do something very similar tarl... I follow a set path through most maps if there's not a room I like... Same concept. Killstealing from anyone pre-warlord wave, ticks me off.... there's obviously gonna be countless situations where it just happens but, ya I've noticed a few people who take it upon themselves to "help" me on every monster I almost kill.... Personally as far as I'm concerned once warlord wave hits, every mob is fair game since there's more then enough to go around, and most people can usually use help.... but ya that little bug on wave 3... He's not gonna kill me... It's not so much the points, cause points don't really mean jack to me. It is the principle, but that's just me :) Much <3 

Hey, if I kill it with a shield gun before you kill it with anything else, I'm sorry, I doubt I'm going to feel your pain. Besides, I'm more likely to die because of me doing that than you are to lose amusement (heck, you'll probably gain amusement watching me do stupid stuff like that.) (I chase titans with shield guns. Quite often actually.) 

I could do with some clarification here. My perspective was that we are all trying to kill the monsters, and that any monster is fair game for anyone. I thought we should all be working as a team to kill them all. I am a bit confused about this 'kill stealing' concept. It's a monster, and is fair game for everyone I would have thought. In the heat of the battle, I do not make an assessment of what type of monster it is and how much health the person has left. I will try and help. If I am battling a queen, I am only too grateful if someone comes up and helps. I stand a lot better chance of living if someone is helping! I don't think of it as my 'kill'. Even help with a razor fly is appreciated, as they can be distracting and irritating and get in the way. I suppose it is not on to hide until someone has taken 90% of the health of a queen, and then step out to get the kill. However, to be honest, I am not that bothered about getting a kill, just ensuring that the monsters are killed. I am after experience points, so I want to damage monsters. I am not that bothered about the score, because I am never top, just in the middle. Whenever a redeemer is used, you will kill monsters other people have started battling. Is that kill stealing? Not trying to pick fault with anyone, I just want to know what I am supposed to be doing. Sorry if I got it wrong. 

I'm not so inclined to agree...unless it is with a warlord I get pretty ticked off if someone comes in and picks off the monster that I have control of. I really don't mind the ocassional deemer that takes out a few of my monsters, but when 9 deemers and ion painters go off constantly it can be annoying. Thanks for listening (reading) to my rant. 

PoisonMushroom wrote:

I'm not so inclined to agree...unless it is with a warlord I get pretty ticked off if someone comes in and picks off the monster that I have control of. I really don't mind the ocassional deemer that takes out a few of my monsters, but when 9 deemers and ion painters go off constantly it can be annoying. Thanks for listening (reading) to my rant. 

Even one deemer pisses me off. Come on, get off your lazy butts and risk something. Deemers and painters just show you can hide or run away good. 

DarkestPoet wrote:

PoisonMushroom wrote:

I'm not so inclined to agree...unless it is with a warlord I get pretty ticked off if someone comes in and picks off the monster that I have control of. I really don't mind the ocassional deemer that takes out a few of my monsters, but when 9 deemers and ion painters go off constantly it can be annoying. Thanks for listening (reading) to my rant. 

Even one deemer pisses me off. Come on, get off your lazy butts and risk something. Deemers and painters just show you can hide or run away good. 

well put, but maybe its easier for us lower level people to use deemers once a wave, ya know what i mean? 

PoisonMushroom wrote:

I really don't mind the ocassional deemer that takes out a few of my monsters, but when 9 deemers and ion painters go off constantly it can be annoying. 

Even one deemer pisses me off. Come on, get off your lazy butts and risk something. Deemers and painters just show you can hide or run away good. 

Ok, I'm so mad right now. Mostly this is to vent, but I want to add in that I totally understand how Cha-Chi and Mystic feel about being booted off a map. We were on Inferno, which is one of my favorite maps and I was doing really good (for me anyway)...I was getting some wicked shield guns and killing lots of aliens....and they all voted for another map!! I didn't even notice it until everything froze because no vote screen came up! :x I know it was at least Wave 7. You never truly understand what somebody has to deal with until it happens to you. And to all those people who voted me out of a good game and anyone else who was enjoying it: GRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! Dru, is there any way to stop this? I don't know anything about running a mod or server, but more than one person has complained about this now. And more than one person has said in game, "Don't vote. People are still playing." In fact, that's close to having to be done with every map. *whew* Thanks for listening, people....anybody want a cookie? :) B_B 

Can I have that cookie now? It's my birthday tomarrow and I have to work :cry:  

emetakleze wrote:

Can I have that cookie now? It's my birthday tomarrow and I have to work :cry:  

Happy birthday! And sure...I've got some Oreos lying around here somewhere... :) But yeah, I figured nothing could be done other than asking they not vote. I've been there before when map voting was needed. I don't remember why, but like I said that post was mostly to vent and I did...being kicked out won't kill me. B_B 

Cha-Chi]Yes I am going to bring this topic back up. For the first time today I actually got a lil mad at people on the server. Was it for stealing artifacts, no. Was it for stealing kills, no. It was for complaining about a map being too small and them dieing alot. The map was Gestalt. Comon people, it is a three level map. If you don't like the map don't vote it in. And if you see the map is wrong and want to try to map vote it off at the beginning, go for it. Don't wait till WAVE 13 just because your dieing alot and have a score of 300. I know I love playing that map, heck I had a score of 1200 at wave 13. If the map is that close to ending and you think no one can live than you will get your wish for the map to be changed if everyone dies. Just give people the chance to try to enjoy those clench times (some of us REALLY enjoy those times.) I know the server is not mine and people have the right to map vote off but be a little considerate to those who are enjoying the map. Don't change right before it is over, do it at the beginning, that can certainly be justified. Sorry, you all know I am not a person to rant and get frustrated but I finally see what Mystic started yelling about a little while back. I feel your pain now brother.  

Thanks for making it clear that all monsters are fair game cpl. However, you also seem to be saying you would prefer it if other people didn't attack any monsters you were dealing with. Would it help to have a list somewhere of those people who want to be left alone, and those who don't mind being helped? I know it would not be possible in a match to get it right all the time, but it might help a bit. My problem is that I don't want to offend someone by helping when they didn't want it, but I don't want to stand by and watch someone get wiped out if I could have helped. From my perspective, if I am 1-on-1 against a titan, I know who usually wins, and it's not me. I am usually first out on wave 14! I could say it's due to a relatively high ping, but it's actually lack of skill! I would much prefer to take titans on in a group effort. Perhaps we could have parts of a map where people team together, and others parts where the individualists could go? 

i kill all i see . :D  

yup team effort is the way i like it. help others and get helped :D  

I am just jealous really because I haven't made it to level 55 yet!!! :lol:  

What?!? I thought shooting my deemers at Mystic was the goal!  

Pyro will always be part of the Dark Side.... but we gotta convert new peeps so we can have the mass overwhelmingly swarm the goodie peeps and have a melee of firepower that would make CPL's fireworks look small..... Hmmm.... death I think the Dark Side needs a Kitty =) 

I have a question about "manners"  

the only thing i heard was that you shouldnt pick up like triple damage things that has a countdown while inbetween waves. Because your just going to waste it. Everything else without a timer is fair game! :twisted:  

A good example is PLUNGE, it has a super shield on one side and a redeemer opposite that  

On the other hand, there are times I prefer to just hide and chuck spider mines. At those times when I'm the last one alive I'd appreciate it if I didn't hear people (the dead) say "get out there and fight" or "it's all over, he's a dead man" or "Just die already and get on to a new map".  

FodderFigure wrote:

On the other hand, there are times I prefer to just hide and chuck spider mines. At those times when I'm the last one alive I'd appreciate it if I didn't hear people (the dead) say "get out there and fight" or "it's all over, he's a dead man" or "Just die already and get on to a new map".  

This post isn't targeted at anyone in partuclar, but I want to add my 2c. If you're in a hidy hole where the monster can't harm you, and you're the last player the admins *will* encourage you to "get out there and fight" for two reasons: 1) You're very close to cheating if you're in a spot the monsters cant go and cant damage you. 2) You're not being very considerate to the other players. Now if you're out there, running and fighting. You're fair game for the monsters, and hence not cheating. What I'm driving at here is to just be mindful of the other players if you're the last one alive. Dru 

Klok the only things you cant camp are the superweapons. It happens all the time turning a corner and grabbing something someone was waiting for thats no biggy, but if you see them before you grab it it would definately be cool of you to just pass it by. And good advice on this just being a game, sometimes when you sit down and invest hours into a game you can forget very easily that it is just a game and frustration can get the best of you. That being said, just a game or not DC will not tolerate players who are rude, disrespectful, or generally lacking the courtesy required to follow the rules that have been laid out. The relatively strict enforcement of the rules on this server has resulted in a community of regulars who are fun to play with, and friendly. Hope you enjoy it here as much as the rest of us, Dru and Shan have done a lot of work with code and people and rules to make this a great place to game. 

if you see some regulars around and need ammo ask them if they can fill up your gun for you(if you are having trouble finding ammo for it that is). I know I can fill a flak cannon in about thirty seconds, if not less. 

its not the end of the world if someone takes a super sheild or double damage, shrug it off,thier more and its not worth getting mad over nor makeing someone feel bad..  

Yo Joe!!! now Decepticons... ATTACK!!!! 

I've seen a certain "loaded artifact" player pickup a triple damage on purpose no less than three times while playing. 

I know the player spawns with those so there is no need for this. On those three occasion, I could have gotten to it in time, and once he actually saw me running for it but still took it anyway. 

One day a certain man who plays daily kept shooting me again and again with a flak cannon (not a healing one) and I asked him what his problem was but he just kept shooting me until I left. 

Hey chyster or any other admins, can we start with a link gun. I'm a noob and I'm usually dead before I can find a good weapon. Also I think that folks who have a problem ought to communicate with us noobs because we just don't have a clue.  

I don't foresee that happening but you can remain ever hopeful. 

One day a certain man who plays daily kept shooting me again and again with a flak cannon (not a healing one) and I asked him what his problem was but he just kept shooting me until I left. 

I figured I probably did something stupid. I usually do. To whom it may concern, sorry 'bout that, I'm a in training. :oops:  

I figured I probably did something stupid. I usually do. To whom it may concern, sorry 'bout that, I'm a in training. :oops: