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remove the huge ONS maps

toofpick — GMT

the huge ONS maps are very frustrating. the first couple waves can take sometimes upto 20 mins... :-L this is only bad on the big maps though, and some of them arent to bad (like torlan). well, i was just wondering

Re:remove the huge ONS maps

Grizzled_Imposter — GMT

Allow the majority of players on the map at the time to decide if they are going to play ONS maps.

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Continuum — GMT

Grizzled_Imposter wrote:

Allow the majority of players on the map at the time to decide if they are going to play ONS maps.

Exactly....! I get tired of hearing people want to change the map because they cant sit in one spot and rack up as many points as they could on a 1v1 map. If the map gets voted on just play it :) If the map has any major problems go ahead and vote to change it but just being an ONS map shouldnt really automatically mean its a bad map. (although it is true the fps can drop on a good part of them no argument there) Also if the map is so bad that it can't be played post something in the forums about it so it can be removed and then you don't have to worry about that one anymore.

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

Still, I have to agree with toofpick. the larger ONS maps get really frustrating really quick. It's hard to find any of the monsters on them, and even when you do, others may already have killed them and you're just finding the dead ones about to disappear.

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Chyster — GMT

I tend to agree with the frustration of the huge maps. However, this is not the world according to me. Maps are voted in on a Democratic basis. Vote for what you want and the most votes win. Thats the way it is. If a map comes up that you don't like.....it ain't the end of the world. Go do something else 'till its over.

Re:remove the huge ONS maps

Shantara — GMT

If you have a complaint about one map in particular, then post it as its own post. Maps will only be considered for deletion individually. It may also interest some people to know that due to the way UT2004 is configured, if you include a map for one gametype (e.g. onslaught), you cannot eliminate it from another (e.g. invasion).

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320 — GMT

Although I know it's democratic, I also know democracys can still make mistakes. :wink: I hate the vast majority of ONS maps. Primevial is decent. Dria is simply horrendous. Even a map like Torlan is torture for me personally, and I drop off and come back later. But at least with Torlan, there was a time when I was around level 40 and I enjoyed it (I was able to get more exp at that level playing ONS than playing DM because I could stay in a raptor the whole time and not die.) I suggested Pacman as a compromise and so far the response has been very good. People of all stripes seem to enjoy that map, even though the first five waves are kind of slow still. I think ONS can be fun with a map like that and even maps 2 - 3 times that size. Beyond that... dunno. Maybe I'll try to find a few more like that so everyone can live in peace...

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Fraggerman — GMT

320 wrote:

Although I know it's democratic, I also know democracys can still make mistakes. :wink:

Although, if this democracy makes a mistake, it only lasts 45 minutes. I think we can cope with that.

Maybe I'll try to find a few more like that so everyone can live in peace...

Why cant there be peace no mater what type we play?

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[KitFox] — GMT

Although, if this democracy makes a mistake, it only lasts 45 minutes. I think we can cope with that.

One of those big map lasted for 1h and was still not ended. 1h for less than 11 waves is very, very frustrating... Im an ONS hater too. But when the map is too big and boring i just leave, it gives me time to do dishes and stuff :P

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

That's the main problem. The time that it takes for each ONS map to get through the waves. If we are going to play on ONS maps, at least make them the smaller ones. Still it is all a vote that decides the map change. But if you get enough votes, it can change mid game, right?

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BotFodder — GMT

Enough for voting (be it kick or map) requires "more than half" of the players on voting the same thing. In terms of map voting, I think more than half have to vote for the same actual map (it *may* be that half only need to vote for a change, but not necessarily the same map). So yes, it can change ... it just sucks sometimes that it takes them so long to figure out they want to change the map ... If more than half of the folks want to stay there, then I guess I get to go play some GalCiv2.

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Fraggerman — GMT

I'm all for map changes when there's a problem, I just don't like the constant "vote this map off" reminder every thirty seconds. Once is enough, maybe twice, after that it becomes harassment and chat spamming. Don't tell me to place that person on ignore, that's not the point, it only needs to be said once and if it's not voted off then go do something else and quit bugging us. Go bully the weird kid down the block. There is always dishes and clothes to be washed, heck, throw the dishes in with the wash and see what happens, or go help Kitfox with his. I like ONS because it's a welcome change from the same 15 maps that we always play.

Re:remove the huge ONS maps

Continuum — GMT

Same here, ONS maps rarely get voted for so when they do get voted why not just play it. As for length they seem to be slightly longer but Ive never seen one take an hour to finish, usually a normal map takes about 20 -30 min and under normal curcumstances you can add 5-10 min for an ONS map as long as there are a few people roaming the map. On the other hand if it is a map with several mantas then it might actually take less time to finish.

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

ONS maps rarely get voted for so when they do get voted why not just play it.

I agree. Take Primevil for example. It's like a large DM level, but it's big enough to be called ONS. We should use the smaller maps and get rid of the really giant ONS ones.

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Grizzled_Imposter — GMT

I like ONS because I am not fighting someone 1 to 2 hundered levels higher than me to kill every creature that spawns. Its nice to line up on a creature and not have some on jump between you and It and take your shot away, or worse yet slide in front of you just as you let go your burst of 3 rockets killing you in the splash. I also like to have plenty of room to manuver, I tend to die when I can't dodge. Despite the fact that I usualy die, I get more experiance on a ONS map than I see on one of the small 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 maps that a good number of the high score records are based on. It is very annoying having the map that the majority voted in voted out before all of the players have finished downloading it. I could easily do the same thing, I usaully have to wait for all of the other players to load the map, but I consider that weasaly (sorry weasels). As for lag from big maps, Im sorry, I have a very fast computer and It takes a lot to make me see my fps drop, but I don't vote for ONS very often, I do like to play on them ocasonaly. Most of all, I hate being inundated with 5 rounds of 2 people complaining about the map when no one else is willing to vote it off. please excuse me If this came off as a rant, It probably was, but don't take it personaly. It wasent meant that way.

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FodderFigure — GMT

Grizzled_Imposter wrote:

I like ONS because I am not fighting someone 1 to 2 hundered levels higher than me to kill every creature that spawns.

I was on a map yesterday where I knew (awareness) with one more shot the titan would go down, and someone else would come in and take it. This happened four times in a row, so us high level players deal with this too. I'm just happy it went down before killing me.

As for lag from big maps, Im sorry, I have a very fast computer and It takes a lot to make me see my fps drop

I think it's been written: First remove the lag from your own i(nternet connection), and then you can see clearly to fix the specs that is in your brother's i(nternet connection) So don't let them bring you down.

Most of all, I hate being inundated with 5 rounds of 2 people complaining about the map when no one else is willing to vote it off.

I agree

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

I like ONS because I am not fighting someone 1 to 2 hundered levels higher than me to kill every creature that spawns. Its nice to line up on a creature and not have some on jump between you and It and take your shot away, or worse yet slide in front of you just as you let go your burst of 3 rockets killing you in the splash. I also like to have plenty of room to manuver, I tend to die when I can't dodge.

What you're saying is true some times. Most lower leveled people play ONs and level up within the first ten waves from not having the monsters being swarmed by others before they can get a chance to kill it. Happens to me a lot as a medic. I try to kill a warlord or queen, and someone takes the kill while I am heailing either someone else or myself. The only thign I don't like is the size of most ONS maps. Too large means the monsters are scarce some times. They can all be in one place, and you wouldn't know any better. It can get annoying.

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320 — GMT

Fraggerman wrote:

320 wrote:

Although I know it's democratic, I also know democracys can still make mistakes. :wink:
Although, if this democracy makes a mistake, it only lasts 45 minutes. I think we can cope with that.
Maybe I'll try to find a few more like that so everyone can live in peace...
Why cant there be peace no mater what type we play?

Well, if it's democracy in action for people to vote the maps while playing, it's also democracy in action to discuss likes and dislikes on the forum. The fact is there is an endless stream of new players that are charmed by the "wow, that sounds cool" idea of ONS maps, which greatly contributes to them being voted, in my experience. By wave 10 on a map like ONS-Red Planet, during peak time, the server is down to 10 players as they slowly drop off. So that wave of newbies learned they don't like Onslaught. Cue the next and repeat. As many are saying, it's not the game type, it's the map size. When you can go a minute or two without seeing a single bug, or when the only weapon I use for the first five waves is the Lightning gun, to me something is wrong. But I'm like Kitfox. I just drop off until it's done.

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Fro13 — GMT

I usually drop off on ons maps too. When i do play them, I always try and get somebody to play "bumper cars" with. Fun, but not many people bump back. :P

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

ONS maps do get boring. I've been through an entire ONS map and didn't find one monster the entire time. Still, it is all up to the players at that time. If they want to try it, it's their votes that matter. One other thing. I want to know if this happens to anyone else. I try to make a medical link gun +6 and use it to heal my vehicle, when the game bugs out becuase of that weapon. Does this happen to anyone else?

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Fro13 — GMT

Fox_N.E.X.U.S. wrote:

I try to make a medical link gun +6 and use it to heal my vehicle, when the game bugs out becuase of that weapon. Does this happen to anyone else?

You have to wait a second or two after you make the medic gun before you start healing your vehicle. If you try and heal it right after you make it, it will crash.

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

Does it happen with any other weapons? I mean, some others have crashed me and I dodn't even do anything with them.

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Boingo_Babe — GMT

Fro13 wrote:

I usually drop off on ons maps too. When i do play them, I always try and get somebody to play "bumper cars" with. Fun, but not many people bump back. :P

Is that why you keep running me over? I thought both people had to be in vehicles! :?: :wink: B_B

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(DC)DEMONSLAYER — GMT

Does anyone use the radar screen in the upper right hand corner? On ONS maps, I just cruise around till I find a yellow dot and then head for it. I like ONS just for the shear pleasure of something different to play.

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Fox_N.E.X.U.S. — GMT

That is a good idea, but sometimes someone is all ready attacking that monster. The radar does halp a bit, but it still doesn't make the monsters any easier to find before they're all ready killed. How many times has this happened to anyone. You're driving around on an ONS map that is pretty large when you spot a dot on your radar that seems likea good target. Near it is several other dots that are a mixture of blue and yellow. By the time you get there, all the monsters are dead and the others have all ready left with their EXP from the kills. It keeps happening until you finally find a monster that isn't undr attack by anyone else. Once you attack it, you kill it and get the EXP from that kill, but you try to find others and can't for round after round. It ends only to find that you have a low score and EXP from lack of monster kills. This happens all the time to me on large ONS maps. Smaller ones like Pacman are good because everyone is all together and fighting the monsters all in the same area without many that aren't spotted by someone to be killed by you or them.

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Fro13 — GMT

Boingo_Babe wrote:

Fro13 wrote:

I usually drop off on ons maps too. When i do play them, I always try and get somebody to play "bumper cars" with. Fun, but not many people bump back. :P
Is that why you keep running me over? I thought both people had to be in vehicles! :?: :wink: B_B

No, pedestrians are just BONUS POINTS! :wink:

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Akuma — GMT

Red Planet is particularly painful. We did that one yesterday and it took us almost an hour to finish. Vehicles and large distances trivialize the actual combat encounters, but hunting the critters down takes forever.

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TIMMY — GMT

Well particularly for me....i like ons maps......when i bought ut04 i started out playing ons 1st then dm then ctf then instagib then tam...after that invasion :D.........Usually I can get a lot of exp on ons maps coz of my manta and raptor driving skills and i can even compete for the high score against ppl that are level 100-300 with my mere level 50-60 weapon master.....for me it's a nice break from ppl with quickfoot and triple damage hogging all the kills in a regular invasion map......the little bug that escapes every now and then can be frustrating to find.....same with the fps drop and the lag but once its voted then i just play it.

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Moof — GMT

I just wish Mysterial had kept working on that system where you'd earn score and adrenaline as you earn xp, by the damage you do to a monster and not by kills. He said he was working on it...before I stopped playing....in November 2004. Heh.

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Icey — GMT

Fro13 wrote:

Boingo_Babe wrote:

Fro13 wrote:

I usually drop off on ons maps too. When i do play them, I always try and get somebody to play "bumper cars" with. Fun, but not many people bump back. :P
Is that why you keep running me over? I thought both people had to be in vehicles! :?: :wink: B_B
No, pedestrians are just BONUS POINTS! :wink:

You want to play Bumper Cars some time Fro, look me up! I tend to have Raptor chicken wars with other people that have trouble finding monsters in Onslaught. Then again, manta chicken tends to be more fun since there's the whole 'pancake' thing that's more than fun to do to -anything-, monsters and humans alike. :)