Possiblity for the healing weapon (with an additional skill) to bring back to life a player's corpse. 

yes, but that can be prevented. with a bunch of code, you can make them disapear when the new wave countdown begins. (so when the players get respawnd) that way, it is very well possible, getting the code done, to resseruct the player is a bit harder i think. ;) 

I think that healing weapons should not deal additional damage to enemies... and maybe shouldn't deal damage at all. Future ideas: Possiblity for the healing weapon to knockback enemies instead of dealing damage to them. Possiblity for the healing weapon (with an additional skill) to bring back to life a player's corpse. 

And you shouldn't do that "no damage" with the medic weapons thing for a few reasons 2)It would make the game very boring JUST healing and not even shooting down an annoying mosquito.  

I know this sounds wierd but everybody is having a problem with finding someone that heals you..Is there a way to have the healers come on the radar a different color like the monster and pets are now.Or a different color becon over there head like yellow or something..Would be easier to go to them then them come to u..After all there healing you  

From what I can tell (and what la bomba is telling me) medics are making a ton of XP per game. Makes the LW people feel kinda nerfed, ya know? Also, its a hassle trying to jump over people who are healing you so you can go kill things... 

From what I can tell (and what la bomba is telling me) medics are making a ton of XP per game. Makes the LW people feel kinda nerfed, ya know? Also, its a hassle trying to jump over people who are healing you so you can go kill things... 

Do the monsters need to go up a skill level? 

(also happened on Torlan) ... RPGLinkGun ONS-PrimevalRPGLinkGun (Function Engine.Weapon.GetFireMode:0000) Infinite script recursion (250 calls) detected 

You mean Primeval? 

How hard would it be to make the medic weapons not "infinite", but more like "resupplied"? ... This might slow the xp rate they're getting - or at least make them be a little more picky about healing people.  

personally I say ya shouldnt get xp for healing players. It's too easy.  

Perhaps it needs a calculation like: Medics get the wave number of points back at the end of each wave, for each person still alive. So ten people surviving wave 16 would be 160xp. Scale it as necessary to keep it balanced (e.g. divide by ten or the number of medics). LW and LA players who survive get the total team score split between them (not medics).  

You ought to be ashamed! 

personally I say ya shouldnt get xp for healing players. It's too easy. 

I love getting the XP, but it does need to be fair. It's Druid's call as to what's fair. Maybe, repeat maybe, the medic's should be higher levels to help provide more support, like it's intended that way.... Don't know about that though.... 

can you use Magic Modifier Plus One multiple time? If we can, i think it would balance out the LA people :?  

I think someone mentioned this already but the easiest solution would be to raise the monsters difficulty. 

Medics really suck when it comes to trying to defend themselves seeing as we got no/little DR or not much Health 

I've been ambushed by a couple of warlords and a queen or skaarj and such and all the other guys just sit on the other side waiting for me to die so the monsters come to them....what's up with that? After I healed them like 10 times each? 

Nope. And this artifact is still being considered as needed to further lessen it's ability somehow...  

You can buy it the same as anyone else...  

There's no rule that says you have to help big jerks. :lol:  

]But heals dont knock... 

btw, I'm also considering a loaded weapons skill that would allow you to further increase your damage bonus. 

There's no rule that says you have to help big jerks. :lol:  

]Normal Flak knock yep. But healing weapons dont :) 

]You know Druid, even if LA is fun to play, when a LW is in the game, its impossible to do as much xp. 

]That Magic Weapon +1 was a good idea ! 

]LW is really powerfull. 95% of the time, a LW guy survive all waves to the end. The only LA player ive seen able to survive is DaRedEye, and hes lvl 240? 

]I want you to know tough that i never had so much fun in a game as on your server. Not even in WoW or Everquest. Its wonderfull, and thanks! 

i know the numbers are not exact, but those extra 700 points gained in the same amount of time will mean more damage reduction, more damage bonus, more wep speed, more skills etc. on the short run, this might not be very important. but considering meds are lvl'ing fast, the long run is shorter, too. (i dunno what that means) 

chasing me and hitting me with the alt fire of the flak is not helping me as much as its making it really hard for me to dodge and getting me shot more because your knocking me. 

More damage bonus eh? Hopefully it won't be like 100 stat points to purchase...I almost had a heart attack using 40 points for ghost and an extra 25 for level 2 

I like that idea but then I think it would only be fair for LA players to get more adrenaline which you can also make it a skill seeing as they all complain LW have ALL the advantage or maybe a skill for their damage bonus since they usually die first... 

This may be way off topic and too soon to mention with you finishing the new class, but I've noticed a lot of higher level players have no definite goal anymore with what they'll purchase since they got mostly everything. Maybe if you added a few skills for players over level 100 it would spark that interest again. Just some thoughts :D  

Honestly, I originally intended the levels to max out at around 100. It seems as we've gone along that it's moved more towards 150.  

I'd really rather encourage players to create new characters along the different classes. To the point that I wish when I had created LA, that I hadn't let people on the server switch from one conceptual class to another. 

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they got mostly everything  

That have always been the problem of all RPGs. You cannot do anything about it. Unless releasing an Expansion, but you cannot really do that here, since there is only one area. 

1. Dr.Ooo has noted that sometimes he gets xp for healing people past their max, sometimes he doesn't.  

2. I've noticed since I've been declared a weapon's master, for every point I put into health bonus, I get two points of health bonus. Prior to the classes, I did not (IIRC). If this is by design, I don't think I've seen anything that documents it. And if I've let a secret out, well, sorry. 

Finally, this is probably by design (and I agree that at least conceptually, it should be) - he gets no XP for "damage" done by Rage weapons. The damage a player takes when using a rage weapon is (and I could easily argue that it should be) self damage. However, this makes rage weapons on other players a bane to medics (not that they don't deserve one  

Okay so what's the difference between someone who simply has a healing weapon, and the healing class, or "medic"?  

I was playing last night and this guy brought up a good point.He said if there going to get xp of me then im going to make them work for it.I thought to myself hmmmm...so this means he isn't going to come to me and sit still he i have to find him and run around with him b/c he won't sit still.An yes this gets very hard b/c there on the run non stop....When there is other people that need to be healed  

When I was the only medic in the game, I got 6000 xp in one map (I leveled up twice). 

It is somewhat clear to me that some people just don't like how easily Medics get xp. Some people run away from me if I start to heal them, and the only time they'll actually try to sit still is if they go below 100. They don't even stop between waves, sometimes.  

Szlat wrote:

Do the monsters need to go up a skill level? 

I was saying this exact thing last night. Medic's don't always survivie, but they do more than most people their level. Plus, I'm noticing a kind of partnership between medics, almost as if they heal each other before they'll heal a LW or LA player (which isn't necessarilly a bad thing, the more medic's the higher the game's HP is). I'd have to agree with you, not only are the medic's lasting longer than one would think, but EVERYONE is doing better as well. 

To infinity and beyond would be quewl. I don't understand placing parameters such as this on something like what you have here. 

Ya, well now I feel bad because I switched around lvl 100 and didn't realize your thoughts toward 'capping' the classes.  

Also, I'm glad to hear the "Beta" info regarding resets for the clerics. I worked hard for my levels (if ya wanna call it work) and somebody who has only been around a short time running up the ladder just doesn't sound right. 

SilverMonkey wrote:

I think someone mentioned this already but the easiest solution would be to raise the monsters difficulty. 

I'm seriously considering this very thing. Not until this class is final, and until there's enough medics around.

SilverMonkey wrote:

Medics really suck when it comes to trying to defend themselves seeing as we got no/little DR or not much Health 

You can buy it the same as anyone else... /:)

SilverMonkey wrote:

I've been ambushed by a couple of warlords and a queen or skaarj and such and all the other guys just sit on the other side waiting for me to die so the monsters come to them....what's up with that? After I healed them like 10 times each? 

Sounds like a mob not worth healing in the future >:) There's no rule that says you have to help big jerks. :lol:  

When I was the only medic in the game, I got 6000 xp in one map (I leveled up twice). Once another medic entered the next game, I got 2000, maybe 3000 xp. I guess having multiple medics sort of balances it out, but still the LW and LA people never get that much, at least not easily. 

] You know Druid, even if LA is fun to play, when a LW is in the game, its impossible to do as much xp. With all the field fulled with mines and more Super Weapon explosions than the number of mobs... I think LA needs something "unique" to make the class more attractive. Its not for nothing that no one is LA. That Magic Weapon +1 was a good idea ! LW is really powerfull. 95% of the time, a LW guy survive all waves to the end. The only LA player ive seen able to survive is DaRedEye, and hes lvl 240?  

[KitFox wrote:

]You know Druid, even if LA is fun to play, when a LW is in the game, its impossible to do as much xp. 

I wonder if you're playing the class wrong... I couldn't disagree more. On average, I can level at the same speed as a LW person of similar level, as long as I get in in the beginning of a game. If I get in late, it's hard to catch up. Look at how well ooo does, and he's a LA character. He's leveling at least as fast or faster than LW people, to the point that I feel like I need to help out the LW peoples. Now I agree that at the lower levels that wasn't possible in the past, but I believe we've corrected that in this release. The lower level skills are a lot easier to purchase.

[KitFox wrote:

]That Magic Weapon +1 was a good idea ! 

Thanks

[KitFox wrote:

]LW is really powerfull. 95% of the time, a LW guy survive all waves to the end. The only LA player ive seen able to survive is DaRedEye, and hes lvl 240? 

It's true that the last few waves are more difficult for an adrenaline master, especially if they get in late... although if I focus, I can survive all the time. I'm hopeful that having medics around will help with this. Really, the adrenaline master class is supposed to be more like a mage.... You dont throw your mage out on the front lines... They aren't designed for it ;)  

The problem is that once you're 150, I really dont know what kind of skills to give you that wouldn't dramatically unbalance your abilities against the abilities of lower level players... 

Since the LA class is basically a mage, find a way to resurrect the old 'Black Hole Gun' mod and give them the ability to generate and disperse this weapon. 

deidog wrote:

chasing me and hitting me with the alt fire of the flak is not helping me as much as its making it really hard for me to dodge and getting me shot more because your knocking me. 

While healing, the momentum of the shot is nulled out, so it wont bounce you around. Originally, I intended this to be a helpful sign when the healing was finished, that it would bump the player... Clearly this is a mistake on my part. I'll null out the momentum from healing shots on friendlies at all times so this stops. 

]Ohhh i never noticed. Maybe because once i hit full HP, i instantly flee to find mobs :P My mistake sorry! 

If I am not mistaken, and I usually am, it was a UK2K3 or 4 mod. A special weapon that when fired, sucked everything that can move off the map. Basically, if you weren't behind a wall when the 'black hole' opened, you were toast. The wall did give protection, but the force of the gravity of the weapon was known to cause major damage to you by slamming you into the wall because of the gravity well. Can't remember exactly what it was called, but it was one awesome weapon. You know, now that I think about it, this may have been a Tribes2 weapon, oh well its the thought that counts. They say that something goes first with age, but I can't remember what it was. :D  

If I am not mistaken, and I usually am, it was a UK2K3 or 4 mod. A special weapon that when fired, sucked everything that can move off the map. Basically, if you weren't behind a wall when the 'black hole' opened, you were toast. The wall did give protection, but the force of the gravity of the weapon was known to cause major damage to you by slamming you into the wall because of the gravity well. Can't remember exactly what it was called, but it was one awesome weapon. You know, now that I think about it, this may have been a Tribes2 weapon, oh well its the thought that counts. They say that something goes first with age, but I can't remember what it was. :D  

If I am not mistaken, and I usually am, it was a UK2K3 or 4 mod. A special weapon that when fired, sucked everything that can move off the map. Basically, if you weren't behind a wall when the 'black hole' opened, you were toast. The wall did give protection, but the force of the gravity of the weapon was known to cause major damage to you by slamming you into the wall because of the gravity well. Can't remember exactly what it was called, but it was one awesome weapon. You know, now that I think about it, this may have been a Tribes2 weapon, oh well its the thought that counts. They say that something goes first with age, but I can't remember what it was. :D  

I think that even a level 150 LA person should not be getting this,  

EEEEP!! Sorry I brought it up. I'll just put you down for a 'no' then, huh. :D  

...perhaps LA folks should not drop their artifacts when they die (but not prevent their intentionally dropping them or giving them away), and that perhaps XP is warranted when other players benefit from your using adren to max their weapon or to make one...