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Thè-Hättêr

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In this thread we can discuss:

1. What skills to add first to get us on the right track
2. Why you'd think these skills are important.
3. Discuss a skill and what it does for your type of play.
4. How skills interact with other skills.
5. What exactly various skills do.
6. Etc...

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shield regen and construction health bonus. shield healing is also a MUST. engineers who don't have this or don't use it make people very angry. its like if a medic didn't heal you when you had 1 health... when he wasn't busy (*cough elite cough*)
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Oy TK point fingers in other threads will ya

1st always keep up with your loaded engineer save up points so you can buy it when your the right level, 2nd spend the left over points on shield regen, shield healing and engineer awareness, then construction health bonus.

You get Shield Blast at shield healing lvl 3, this is very useful if everyone's shield are gone and a lot is going on, it is also a good way to get xp if a lot of people are near each other and your all out of shields.

Another thing a lot of engineers really don't like other engineers setting up inside their base/setting up too close to their base, like putting a sentinel in front of a turret or the other way around, just try to be courteous.

Kneeling next to block deletes them and transing into them deletes them, be careful you can get yourself and everyone else killed if all of a sudden there is a gaping hole in the wall.

Vehicles driven into a block will drag the block around and make other weird physics breaking things happen.

VERY IMPORTANT, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES STEAL ANOTHER ENG'S TURRET OR EVEN GET IN IT WITHOUT ASKING!!!

This is both rude and dangerous for both of you, if he has to quick jump in to keep from dieing and your there he might die, then the turret disappears and your both in deep crap.


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1st always keep up with your loaded engineer save up points so you can buy it when your the right level, 2nd spend the left over points on shield regen, shield healing and engineer awareness, then construction health bonus.  


MM looking under dcwiki i have found nothing about loaded engineer i mean... which things can u spawn at which lvls ?

(like at lvl 1 1 block lvl 2 the toilette . and so on)

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The Hatter: Why should it? Does your watch tell you what year it is?
Alice: Of course not, but that's because it stays the same year for such a long time together.
The Hatter: …which is just the case with mine.


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I have found that bases are all well and good when you need the help, but on waves that you can survive on your own, do it.

On earlier waves I plant my sent where it will see the most monsters depending on the flow of the map and where the monsters tend to gather from different corridors. then I roam around killing monsters and returning every couple of laps to "juice up" my sent.

As things ramp up in level, I stick closer to my sent.

At the end of wave 5 and 13 I have a fall back and place a defense sent. titan rocks are deadly and slow, so the defense sent is not immediately overwhelmed by them. If I can I also make sure to have my adrenaline full. Berserk works wonders if you are at all accurate with the link.

later waves I look for a base and someone to link too. some of the higher level eng will be easy enough to let you do this if you ask first and they often have more adrenaline for running berserk, with your link you should do better exp wise then if you fired alone.

A note: while lightning sent does less damage and gets less kills than the regular sent, it does work through blocks, which lets you place it behind a wall, this protects it from damage on later waves and it still does damage that the regular wouldn't. While it does not work that well v.s. titans, it seems to do very well v.s warlords.

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note... sent kills do NOT count toward multi kill or dominating kills. those have to be done with your real weapons.
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Thè-Hättêr wrote:
1st always keep up with your loaded engineer save up points so you can buy it when your the right level, 2nd spend the left over points on shield regen, shield healing and engineer awareness, then construction health bonus.  


MM looking under dcwiki i have found nothing about loaded engineer i mean... which things can u spawn at which lvls ?

(like at lvl 1 1 block lvl 2 the toilette . and so on)  


Wiki was done prior to the engineer release............

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(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

Thè-Hättêr wrote:
....MM looking under dcwiki i have found nothing about loaded engineer i mean... which things can u spawn at which lvls ?

(like at lvl 1 1 block lvl 2 the toilette . and so on)  


Wiki was done prior to the engineer release............ 
Which is true. But I added a lot of information about the Engineer class. If you do find omissions or errors please let me know.
In the case of what you can buy at what level, I didn't add this for two reasons
  • The Monster Master Summoning page did not say what pets you can summon with what points, and I wanted to match the existing style
  • I do not know what you can summon at what level. It is a server side configuration, so it depends on what Druid and Shantara have configured in. And it could change. I have asked other players for this information (see this thread), but do not have a complete list yet.

    If I can get a list of what pets can be summoned at what level, and what constructions can be made at what level, then I will update both.
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    First of all i don't have medic awareness and i don't pay much attention to someones health, so sorry if you feel that way.

    Now back to the subject: I would suggest getting all the core abilities first like, listing them in order from which I think is best to get.

    1. Engineer class 1
    2. Shield healing 45
    3. Damage Bonus 80
    4. Damage Reduction 50
    5. Weapon Speed 50

    Adrenaline,ammo, and health bonus are unimportant at the moment, I would advise to get engineer class, obviously, then loaded engineer every 6 levels along with maxing your shield healing to 3. And the remainder of your points should be put into these core abilities.

    This should bring us at about 80+50+50+1+45=226
    226/7=about level 33

    From level 33 you should have all of these, of course you can do it in any order you desire, from here i would start on shield regen and health bonus.

    6. Shield Regen 60
    7. Health bonus 100

    60+100+226=386
    386/7=about level 56

    And please tell me if i am missing anything as the class has changed over time and i forget, I will post more later.

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    Elite wrote:
    First of all i don't have medic awareness and i don't pay much attention to someones health, so sorry if you feel that way.

    Now back to the subject: I would suggest getting all the core abilities first like, listing them in order from which I think is best to get.

    1. Engineer class 1
    2. Shield healing 45
    3. Damage Bonus 80
    4. Damage Reduction 50
    5. Weapon Speed 50

    Adrenaline,ammo, and health bonus are unimportant at the moment, I would advise to get engineer class, obviously, then loaded engineer every 6 levels along with maxing your shield healing to 3. And the remainder of your points should be put into these core abilities.

    This should bring us at about 80+50+50+1+45=226
    226/7=about level 33

    From level 33 you should have all of these, of course you can do it in any order you desire, from here i would start on shield regen and health bonus.

    6. Shield Regen 60
    7. Health bonus 100

    60+100+226=386
    386/7=about level 56

    And please tell me if i am missing anything as the class has changed over time and i forget, I will post more later. 


    for those of us not quite as awesome as Elite, who kills everything almost instantly and does not need things like health or shields very often

    Buy at least one level of shield regeneration as soon as you can afford it. It may not seem like much, but it makes a difference.

    Elite:

    Not intended as any disrespect, but you do somethings that the majority of players do not on this server, you hit with the majority of your shots and you tend to maximize the damage that you do. You play extremely aggressively where the majority of players I have seen just play to survive until they reach higher level. I know it works for you because you have a number of characters and have passed everyone of the characters that I have in level, by large margins (double my level in many cases) in a fairly short period of time.

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    No disrespect its actually like a compliment to me. Thanks

    But like I said you can go about buying the skills in any way you want

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    I've started working on my engineer and I found Shield Regeneration to be a lifesaver, espically 21+ when you drop to Ghost 1 and spawn with 1 health.

    Right now I have it at 10 which allows 5 shield regen a sec when not getting hit and 100 health bonus and 50 weapon speed. I felt that getting weapon speed over damage bonus was a bit more helpful (since its a choice between firing 1% faster or doing 0.5% more damage) since you have an infinite weapon.

    Of course getting LE every 6 levels is pretty much granted.

    I have hit a bit of a crossroads though getting at 30. I know LE5 is a guarentee spend of 7 but I cant decide whether to work on damage bonus, health bonus, finish up shield regen, get shield healing 3, or work on getting a few levels of construction health bonus since I can start using sentinals.

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    mmm i dont know elite might not heal because medical awarness however if u have micro enabled u might ask him.. im 100% sure he will heal u.. (at least he does it to me... and helpme as well in other aspects of the game, like advice and sometimes turrets or items or anything..)

    i dont know but i must say this but i think the way u play towards others people might change the way people plays towards u..
    (like givin varporal shocks and things that might help that things matters)

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    Alice: Of course not, but that's because it stays the same year for such a long time together.
    The Hatter: …which is just the case with mine.


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    Dracos wrote:
    I've started working on my engineer and I found Shield Regeneration to be a lifesaver, espically 21+ when you drop to Ghost 1 and spawn with 1 health.

    Right now I have it at 10 which allows 5 shield regen a sec when not getting hit and 100 health bonus and 50 weapon speed. I felt that getting weapon speed over damage bonus was a bit more helpful (since its a choice between firing 1% faster or doing 0.5% more damage) since you have an infinite weapon.

    Of course getting LE every 6 levels is pretty much granted.

    I have hit a bit of a crossroads though getting at 30. I know LE5 is a guarentee spend of 7 but I cant decide whether to work on damage bonus, health bonus, finish up shield regen, get shield healing 3, or work on getting a few levels of construction health bonus since I can start using sentinals. 


    It depends on the way you play. If you find yourself alone most of the time, go for damage and health, then construction health bonus. If you find yourself in a base, or hanging out in an area sharing kills with others go with shield healing 3. this will give you shield blast which is a cheap way to pick up extra exp. sure you could repair the shields by hand, but not to yourself as well. One other thing. Shields up skill cost 20 for the first level which gives you 25 shield, a real bargin. second level is 25 for 25. having 200 shield I have found is kind of handy because with shield blast you can repair it yourself for 25 adrenaline.

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    could some mod make it sticky?

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    Alice: Of course not, but that's because it stays the same year for such a long time together.
    The Hatter: …which is just the case with mine.


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