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UntamedSub

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Hey guys,
Here is my situation....
Let's say I just killed a queen and it's body is still laying in front of me, it hasn't disappeared yet and there are some little bugs (pupae?) or even a nali coming towards me from the other side of the queen's body .... I shoot a couple of flak balls at them but instead of the flak balls reaching my target, they just like explode in front of me, like the queen's body is a wall.
I'm not really complaining as it's not a big deal, I was just wondering if this was only happening to me and I just need to reinstall or if it's a bug everyone is getting?

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I seem to remember monster corpses having hitboxes taller than they appear, especially the big ones. I seem to remember thinking that it's not much use to try and shoot over them because the shots just hit over them. I'd say it's normal...for certain values of "normal."

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Yea i have that problem too.. Ive been wanting to try to turn off all gore to see if the bodies go away making it easier to shoot through

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I have my gore turned off and it still does it....oh well no biggie, thx guys!

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I've noticed that when you shoot a corpse, there is an animation like it hits the corpse, but the shots end up going through anyway. Even though you can't see the shots after it hits the corpse, it still go's through and hits monsters behind. (I don't know it that made any sense)

An example could be, I kill a kill a titan with my link gun. Then I keep shooting the corpse since there is another titan behind it. The shots don't look like there going through the dead titan, but I can tell it's hitting the other titan because it's moaning a groaning and blood is spurting out of him. Then he croaks too.

I noticed that alot of guns do this, but I'm not sure which ones don't. The link(primary), flak(primary), rocket, LG, and mini all go through corpses.

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Fro's right. If you continue shooting at the corpse, the shot will still go like it normally does, even if the animations say otherwise. You should notice that if the Flak ball explodes right in your face when it hits a corpse, you don't take any damage.
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Wildfire wrote:
Fro's right. If you continue shooting at the corpse, the shot will still go like it normally does, even if the animations say otherwise. You should notice that if the Flak ball explodes right in your face when it hits a corpse, you don't take any damage. 


Right... I did notice I don't seem to take any damage, which is good. Thx guys for all your info.!

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Guess I'll add my small bit. I've found that even when the ball hits like everyone's pointed out you don't take any damage but on the otherside of the body I'm able to hit and kill monsters through the body of the monsters you're mainly refering to. (Which I am assuming is the larger monsters. So there yah go. lol

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it depends on what projectile type it is, if it is more of a bullet type of projectile it will proberly pass through, if it has a actual 'mass' then it will not.
so flak primary, lg, mini etc etc are projectiles without a actual mass.
(i know flak does show those big bullets, but they arent a actual mass.)
the flak secondary throws a grenade, so it is a actuall mass.. and so it detonates on impact.
rocket should detonate to.. when it hits it.. it passes through.. guesse i wasnt 100% correct.. hmm..

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Fire_eclipse wrote:
Guess I'll add my small bit. I've found that even when the ball hits like everyone's pointed out you don't take any damage but on the otherside of the body I'm able to hit and kill monsters through the body of the monsters you're mainly refering to. (Which I am assuming is the larger monsters. So there yah go. lol 
I get the same problem as untamed does..My weapon will not penetrate through the dead monster until it has completely disappeared.

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I think the only monster your weapons will go through when there dead is a titan im not shure on this but it has happen to mee too
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Hi everyone (first post).
@Drago: Rockets are massless particles in UT - not affected by gravity at all (I had a seminar "Physics in computer games" once, picky gravity in UT was an interesting thing to observe...).

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lol. I guess that makes me special. . In fact I can shoot through queens and still hit monsters on the other side just the same as a regular shot. Hmmmm. Well I guess that's that

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lol. I guess that makes me special. . In fact I can shoot through queens and still hit monsters on the other side just the same as a regular shot. Hmmmm. Well I guess that's that 


Yep. I get the same thing. Once you get used to the idea of shooting through the monsters, you hardly think about it. Also, to the best of my knowledge, all weapons pass through the bodies, even if the projectile (rocket, flakball) animation doesn't show it. The game still reads it as though the body was never there.
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Same here with the corpse problem and the Flak Balls. I figured that it was intentionally programmed into the game to make it seem a litte more realistic. I personally dont have any problems with this. It seems that it works out with Titans too. Instead of their bodies turning into blood like say the warlords or gasbags. Both the queen and titan act like brick walls sometimes.

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