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Szlat

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HighwratH wrote:
Well .... not sure if this has been brought up or not but every time I play berzerker and I am killed by a shield gun nali, the server crashes, without exception.  
Thanks for that - it could be the key. The Nali were tweaked slightly for this build, and not quite performing as expected.
I'll have a word with Druid and see if we perhaps get rid of the nali for a while and see if it makes a difference.
Thanks for the post.
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This is unrelated to the previous, more important topic (maybe a countershove problem?), but this seems like a bug regardless.

At the end of a map, I would goof off and use speed boost. I noticed that, whenever I ran out of adrenaline, the message of day showed up and my adrenaline was refilled back to 100. I could do this infinitely.

Another day, I was on a map that was massive, so I tried speed boost. The same thing happened, and I found it possible to use the boost, the healing blast, and healing sphere in succession in order to heal more often and constantly (I tried this once to see if it would work).

I have adren drip, and I think that is what is doing this in part.

I don't know if this was meant to be or if it is a glitch, but I'm assuming the latter.

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Interesting thought - thought the nali problem may be down to countershove. I hadn't considered that.

I am presuming that the speed boost/adrenaline bug was as a medic (or extreme medic), not as an AM?
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Szlat wrote:
Interesting thought - thought the nali problem may be down to countershove. I hadn't considered that.

I am presuming that the speed boost/adrenaline bug was as a medic (or extreme medic), not as an AM? 


I just tested it with my AM, and I experienced what Dragon described. There must be some code similarities between when the speed combo ends and when someone ghosts, because the exact same events are triggered: The MOTD popping up and the extra adrenaline given by Drip that was implemented in 226.
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I tested the shield nali thing...and at first I thought it to be true, but on the next map, I got shielded a bunch of times on the first wave and the server kept on chuggin...but when I got hit by a nali with sticky mines, that's when it crashed. Thing is, the mine never exploded, just stuck on me.

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Flak Monkey wrote:
I tested the shield nali thing...and at first I thought it to be true, but on the next map, I got shielded a bunch of times on the first wave and the server kept on chuggin...but when I got hit by a nali with sticky mines, that's when it crashed. Thing is, the mine never exploded, just stuck on me. 


On the 8th of October, there was a time-frame where there were five crashes in a row in games that did not reach round four on the maps Sulphur, Osiris, Contrast, Hypermoo][, and Redkin. On two of the maps, I think I was able to find one possible reason for these crashes: a shield-gun nali was standing facing a wall. Only a suggestion, but it might be something to look into.

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playing my eng i had a crash when got smacked by rocks in underground dm i think and then when i was using a vorp +3 shield gun as a eng and was hit by a fireball from a fire titan.




ps them ghost titan's are not nice szlat

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Server crashed 7:20 10/10/11 mst--bunch of nalis were around at the time of the crash.

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Server crashed 8:00 AM AZ time

saw a Shield gun Nali kill a bot and ~poof~

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Now that I was looking for it, I have noticed the shield gun nalis as well. The last time I got on and played (between 12PM and 1PM Pacific) at least two of the crashes I saw happened right as shield gun nalis were hitting something. One was another monster, and one was me. But I didn't have countershove at all.

However, I have a theory.

I believe this situation is similar to that of firing off a shell from my medic flak and then switching weapons. The properties of the shell in mid air are no longer of a healing nature to myself or teammates.

I have been aware of what may or may not be a bug for quite a while now. If there are residual titan rocks around when healing myself against the ground with my medic flak, it will most of the time agitate those rocks so they deal out enough damage to either ghost or kill me. I've been around long enough to know when rocks are normally inert and harmless to run over. I figure in this case that there is just enough of the rock left over to be reanimated, as it were, by a splash weapon and deal out damage to anyone standing on top of them. I will even attest that sometimes the rocks themselves have been idle long enough to disappear from view but are still lurking there in the code waiting to become phantom rocks that kill from beyond the garbage collection grave, with ironic help from a medic weapon.

Now I have no idea if non-medic splash damage weapons work in the same way - it isn't common to go around shooting yourself in the feet with non-medic weapons. What I am saying is, it seems possible that if a nali with a shield gun hitting me at the very same time I am hitting them with a splash damage medic gun could induce the same code circumstances as if I had countershove turned on, and if the non-medic splash damage weapons work the same way (which I see no reason why they wouldn't with respect to monsters) then anyone could set off this unintentional booby trap in the code if they happen to be close enough to a nali holding a shield gun.

Is it possible to just remove shield gun from the list of weapons a nali can hold?

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k had 3 crashes I'm almost positive are Nali related 2 sticky nades and 1 Sg
oh and those vamp gnats didn't need a boost
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Map--arrakis at 6:00 mst--definitely a nali problem in the server crashes.

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Two more crashes in a row. Between 5:12 and 5:14 PM pacific.
Both times it seemed to be me getting damaged by a nali with a grenade launcher.

Perhaps retaliation is involved somehow.

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Dru and Szlat are working on a fix. Please be patient.

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hmmm patient ya say......







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