not a bug but please change monsters halos...  

I now have 10+10 retaliation, had 4 retal kills in about 10seconds, Please reset so I can play again. (unfair to play with so much extra) 

Tank: Fairly slow which is good, there is a bug however that I noticed. When you are frozen from a ice krall and then unfrozen your speed reverts to normal speed 

Elite wrote:

I did notice on all the specialists and even extreme class that when I was buying everything over all the artifacts are messed up and not in order which could screw up the keybinds of some people...... I don't know if thats the way it was meant or not. 

That is the way it has always worked, If you buy a new level of any of these abilities, the new artifacts get added at the end. It is just much worse here because you are buying multiple levels much more frequently - so rather than one game every 10,000 points being affected, it is everytime you buy a subclass. I will look into it. 

Random server crashes have increased... without turrets blowing up 

Also I don't know if this is a bug or not but the pets cannot kill their own species. I read somewhere I forgot where, that this was going to get fixed in the new build. And if that was suppose to happen then this is a bug since they cannot damage one another 

Concerning the link turret, for some reason when I was in it all the artifacts went nameless, so I could not decipher which one I was going to use next. The way that this was restored was when I ghosted, then I could see all the names again. Also Szlat you put up a code that tells you how many people are linking you when you're in a turret, but it gets messed up when using the link turret. Sometimes it shows the number of linkers and sometimes it doesn't... and when it doesn't show the number of linkers it does not give any boost at all even when I had like 3 people linking. 

And I confirmed it anything that freezes the tank subclass or increases it such like a quickfoot weapon will permanently increase the speed unless if you ghost or die. 

There are 2 changes I want to make, but I am hitting problems implementing them. So thoughts please:

The hardcode players cannot be healed, by medics or engineers. I was hoping to somehow change the bar above them to indicate that - but clientside I can't get the information I need. I might need to resort to just giving a sound back. But people playing with the sound down will not pick that up. Any other thoughts? Perhaps flash them in red rather than the healing blue? 

For Skilled Weapons it would be useful to show somehow how improved the current weapon is. I may be able to get to the F3 stats to get the number of kills, but working out the bonus is difficult as the client only has access to the coded defaults, and the server may be running with different settings which are not replicated. So I would know 10 kills, but not what difference that makes. I think Elite suggested at one stage possibly putting something in the weapon name - but the player could drop that weapon and pick up another of the same type - lots of monitoring code required, including possible changes to all weapons - so not good. So, any other thoughts? Perhaps generate a one-off message when the weapon is selected? 

on the extreme monster master the pets are getting 300% damage increase due to the advanced damage bonus for pet. There are currently 20 levels, i think it should be reduced to 10, and if that is still too strong then perhaps 5, but 10 should be good for now. 

For Skilled Weapons it would be useful to show somehow how improved the current weapon is. ..... 

Szlat wrote:

For Skilled Weapons it would be useful to show somehow how improved the current weapon is. ..... 

So when you change weapons, you get the original "Flak of Force 5" or whatever it says. Then under it in smaller writing you get a message saying what the current proficiency bonus is e.g. +15%. Seems to work ok, so I will submit to cvs later. Still not worked out how to get rid of the bars for the HardCore yet. 

I'm not sure why Hard Core is in there...why would anyone want it? It says right in there not to buy it.... I bought it by mistake cuz I was starting a new sub and found out the hard why what it did, by someone else. 

And, while on the subject of the Skilled Weapons bonus here... if you have say a rage flak, will the self damage increase along with the regular damage? How about an Energy weapon, will the Adren it gives increase as well? in a nutshell, just wanna know if its just the damage that increases and not the magical properties as well.. 

However, it does make a difference what order you buy the abilities in. Choose things (like weapon proficiency, LW6) that up the damage before any abilities that use it (like vampire). And likewise things like Energy Leech before LA5. 

Wow, that looks like a bug. So, one player can be more powerful than another with the same abilities just because they picked them in the right order. 

How difficult would it be to have the abilitymenu sort a players abilities in a standard order once purchased? 

for how long the "bug" have been ? so its better to first buy damage bonus ( every kind) then vamp? for WM and for AM, energy befor LA"x"? 

Once a vehicle is blown up in the vehicle specialist subclass or a turret is blown up in the turret specialist subclass and if the creator happens to be in them, the ultima is somehow deactivated when the player ghosts or dies. I don't know why but it just happens. 

Also the link turret does not give a boost to another turret if it is linking it. Nor is xp shared even if the link turret is linking the other turret. I tried this with Rapier being in the link turret and I being in another, we were both engineers. 

I've noticed that when you switch between classes and subclasses, you lose points. 

(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

I've noticed that when you switch between classes and subclasses, you lose points. 

That should not be happening - except the one point for purchasing the subclass. Can you give me details? Presumably your level isnt changing?  

Level does not change. When I purchased a WM sub class, I maxed out everything in the sub class. When I decided to play as aregular WM and sold the sub class, I lost around 700 points-no big deal since I had plenty. Then, when I sold the regular WM class and went back to the sub class, I again lost points. 

(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

Level does not change. When I purchased a WM sub class, I maxed out everything in the sub class. When I decided to play as aregular WM and sold the sub class, I lost around 700 points-no big deal since I had plenty. Then, when I sold the regular WM class and went back to the sub class, I again lost points. 

So your character hasn't lost them on an ongoing basis. When do you think you have lost them - immediately after reconnecting having sold your subclass? 

BTW, are you sure that you are not an accountant? 

(DC)DEMONSLAYER wrote:

BTW, are you sure that you are not an accountant? 

How dare you. :-w I am insulted :)) 

this can qualify as a bug.. waves are ending before monsters are death 

Thè-Hättêr wrote:

this can qualify as a bug.. waves are ending before monsters are death 

Szlat I think this is related to the vamp gnats. It tends to happen when someone feeds the gnats. The spawns don't get killed by the end of the wave, and the monster count goes off.  

The invasion code keeps a count of how many monsters it thinks are still alive. In each wave, after a while it stops spawning new monsters and when it thinks all existing monsters are dead, it will move onto the next wave. What is probably happening is the count is getting screwed, so the invasion code thinks all the monsters are dead, where there are some left alive still. So it starts the new wave. At this point it could be any creature left alive - it was earlier the count got corrupted. So it is a question of finding what corrupted the count. Now it could be the gnats. I did put code in so the invasion code would ignore any additional gnats that got replicated, but there could be a bug in it. Or it could be from the giant gasbags spawning little gasbas, or from queens spawning pupae. Or it may be from something else - e.g. a monster killing another monster. We will have to keep an eye on it and see if we can see a pattern of when it starts. 

I suppose one way to test it out would be to just have one monster type configured, then see if it happens. If not, then move onto the next monster until we find it. And since the vampire gnats are one of the most likely causes, we could just have 16 waves of vampire gnats. Problem is, we might never get to the end of wave 1 :)) 

There are 2 changes I want to make, but I am hitting problems implementing them. So thoughts please:

The hardcode players cannot be healed, by medics or engineers. I was hoping to somehow change the bar above them to indicate that - but clientside I can't get the information I need. I might need to resort to just giving a sound back. But people playing with the sound down will not pick that up. Any other thoughts? Perhaps flash them in red rather than the healing blue?  

Szlat wrote:

There are 2 changes I want to make, but I am hitting problems implementing them. So thoughts please:

The hardcode players cannot be healed, by medics or engineers. I was hoping to somehow change the bar above them to indicate that - but clientside I can't get the information I need. I might need to resort to just giving a sound back. But people playing with the sound down will not pick that up. Any other thoughts? Perhaps flash them in red rather than the healing blue?  

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "hardcore" but I assume you mean those players who don't want to be healed. (Which, IMO, should not be a viable playing style, nor encouraged, but whatever.) I'm not totally sure how you are planning to implement this - Are you planning on literally preventing healing of these players? If so you're going to need to make some changes to the Medic/Healing weapons anyway, so it should not be a big issue to send a message to the owner of that weapon that the player being hit does not want to be healed.